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@fredk I agree.

@bruce johnson that's true.

I am  beginning to think that oils from recent organic sources - animal and plant oils - penetrate better and therefore give better lubrication, while extracts from long ago organic sources - fossil fuel derivatives -  remain more on the surface - ergo the smooth texture, uniform color and water resistance. Differences in organic structure probably. I have forgotten much of my organic chemistry. An organic chemist here might be able to give a better insight.

I might be wrong about this as well, so if anyone knows, please correct me. 

 

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From the books I've read, my personal experience and as well my recent samples bear some proof Thin oils, no matter what kind are used to soften and condition the leather because they can flow more easily through the leather, heavier greases and waxes are more for water resistance, protection from the elements and such That's why we add a bit of NFO or whatever oil after we finish working then after that any other heavier greases or waxes depending on the intended use of the product. Boots for example are treated differently than a purse. A purse may need more nfo, mink, mineral or lighter oils  to soften it and make it pliable while boots need less of those and more water proofing. 

  Leather hasn't changed and the products used on them haven't changed, just the way they are sold and who sells them.  The leather doesn't care which you use and the oils are even more uninterested.

Back on topic lol. I'm both a broke dude and a cheap old geezer, but feibings nfo products are all that are sold in my lil town so that's what I buy. 

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26 minutes ago, chuck123wapati said:

  Leather hasn't changed and the products used on them haven't changed, just the way they are sold and who sells them.  The leather doesn't care which you use and the oils are even more uninterested.

But they have. In the 21st century products have changed so much even in the last 25 - 30 years. Good companies are constantly improving their products, altering what they contain

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What @fredk says is so true. 

Besides, earlier it was just a matter of what people knew in their own locality and shared with each other. Now, we get knowledge from around the world.  They undoubtedly use other products as well, do things in other ways. There is so much to learn, so much more to know.

 

 

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15 hours ago, fredk said:

But they have. In the 21st century products have changed so much even in the last 25 - 30 years. Good companies are constantly improving their products, altering what they contain

I disagree and ask for some proof on that. . They are still combinations of the same old oils. greases and waxes. with a few new buzz words added of course. Your testing them as we speak, how many of the oils you are testing were not around in the 20th century? Name one that any of us aren't testing that wasn't around in the 20th century. 

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@BigDogPaul1962 that is a really good comparison of prices that you have done. Thank you for sharing that.  I usually go to Tractor Supply Co. and did not realize that  Walmart is often cheaper. Now, I will not feel comfortable buying anything without making a similar comparison! LOL.

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14 hours ago, SUP said:

Besides, earlier it was just a matter of what people knew in their own locality and shared with each other. Now, we get knowledge from around the world.  They undoubtedly use other products as well, do things in other ways. There is so much to learn, so much more to know.

 

 

What @fredk says is so true.  

Any proof in that? show me an oil that wasn't in existence in the 20 th. century.

 

"what people knew in their own locality and shared with each other. Now, we get knowledge from around the world."

How are these two conditions different in any way? lol. we've been sharing info for thousands of years. 

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Appreciate the OP's extensive research and price comparisons...most helpful!  

I'm still working thru my current jug of local Tractor Supply-acquired Fiebing's 100% NFO...this post prompted me to do some shopping/price comparison of my own...came across this on one of BigDogPaul's online sources (Amazon):

 

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Might give the smaller jug a try next to see how it works out...

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@Double Daddy, this is a good find.

These days I find that often, Amazon does not always have the lowest prices. If it is a couple of dollars difference, I consider it a convenience tax!  LOL

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