Moderator bruce johnson Posted December 16, 2011 Moderator Report Posted December 16, 2011 Andrew, According a few of the old guys, pricking wheels were the tool designed for marking out stitch spacing. They make a more distinctive mark to be felt than an overstitcher does. The oversticher came along after the stitching to even out any slightly off stitches and to help "set" the stitches. That meant a person needed to have a set of both. Some enterprising soul decided that you could mark out the spacing withan overstitcher and not need a pricking wheel. Most of my pricking wheels go to other countries where a lot of handstitching is still done. Some say they use both, but seems like most use pricking wheels for layout. Back in the day CS OSborne made overstitchers with narrow wheels and wide wheels. The wider wheel ones do a nice job on backside stitches because they will lay the puckering down a little more and set bigger thread. The narrower ones will open that thread line on the back a little more if the thread pulls in, which sounds like what Nick is dealing with. Quote Bruce Johnson Malachi 4:2 "the windshield's bigger than the mirror, somewhere west of Laramie" - Dave Stamey Vintage Refurbished And Selected New Leather Tools For Sale - www.brucejohnsonleather.com
Members Kcinnick Posted December 18, 2011 Author Members Report Posted December 18, 2011 Andrew, According a few of the old guys, pricking wheels were the tool designed for marking out stitch spacing. They make a more distinctive mark to be felt than an overstitcher does. The oversticher came along after the stitching to even out any slightly off stitches and to help "set" the stitches. That meant a person needed to have a set of both. Some enterprising soul decided that you could mark out the spacing withan overstitcher and not need a pricking wheel. Most of my pricking wheels go to other countries where a lot of handstitching is still done. Some say they use both, but seems like most use pricking wheels for layout. Back in the day CS OSborne made overstitchers with narrow wheels and wide wheels. The wider wheel ones do a nice job on backside stitches because they will lay the puckering down a little more and set bigger thread. The narrower ones will open that thread line on the back a little more if the thread pulls in, which sounds like what Nick is dealing with. Yes, The thread is cutting a line going with the tight stitch line, but I am willing to sacrifice the back to get the nice front stitch on belts. When I sew holsters I don't use a stitch near as tight and can get a much better looking back side stitch. I thought I should be adjusting the bottom bobbin tension to compensate, but I Bob told me that was the price of the tight stitch on this kind of machine. Quote
Moderator bruce johnson Posted December 18, 2011 Moderator Report Posted December 18, 2011 Here an example of what I am talking about with using an overstitcher to clena up the bottom stitch. This is a billet strap for a brief case. One scan shows the top stitches. The other scan shows the bottom stitchlines with one side overstitched and the other as it came out of the machine. Quote Bruce Johnson Malachi 4:2 "the windshield's bigger than the mirror, somewhere west of Laramie" - Dave Stamey Vintage Refurbished And Selected New Leather Tools For Sale - www.brucejohnsonleather.com
Members jrny4wrd Posted June 4, 2022 Members Report Posted June 4, 2022 On 12/16/2011 at 11:23 AM, bruce johnson said: Andrew, According a few of the old guys, pricking wheels were the tool designed for marking out stitch spacing. They make a more distinctive mark to be felt than an overstitcher does. The oversticher came along after the stitching to even out any slightly off stitches and to help "set" the stitches. That meant a person needed to have a set of both. Some enterprising soul decided that you could mark out the spacing withan overstitcher and not need a pricking wheel. Most of my pricking wheels go to other countries where a lot of handstitching is still done. Some say they use both, but seems like most use pricking wheels for layout. Back in the day CS OSborne made overstitchers with narrow wheels and wide wheels. The wider wheel ones do a nice job on backside stitches because they will lay the puckering down a little more and set bigger thread. The narrower ones will open that thread line on the back a little more if the thread pulls in, which sounds like what Nick is dealing with. Are you talking about using a wheel for machines? Quote
Moderator bruce johnson Posted June 4, 2022 Moderator Report Posted June 4, 2022 2 hours ago, jrny4wrd said: Are you talking about using a wheel for machines? No, I am talking about using an overstitch wheel on the bottom side of the stitching after machine sewing. This will dress the stitches and make them look more like the top stitches. Quote Bruce Johnson Malachi 4:2 "the windshield's bigger than the mirror, somewhere west of Laramie" - Dave Stamey Vintage Refurbished And Selected New Leather Tools For Sale - www.brucejohnsonleather.com
RockyAussie Posted June 4, 2022 Report Posted June 4, 2022 On 12/19/2011 at 8:05 AM, bruce johnson said: Here an example of what I am talking about with using an overstitcher to clena up the bottom stitch. This is a billet strap for a brief case. One scan shows the top stitches. The other scan shows the bottom stitchlines with one side overstitched and the other as it came out of the machine. Thanks for sharing that @bruce johnson I have had one of these for like 30 years and had not realised that potential. Only does a bit over 1/8" but with a bit of luck I will be able to get one with a bit wider spacing. Now I will have to look to set my stitch length to near perfectly match the overstitch wheel but for some jobs it should be well worth the effort. Quote Wild Harry - Australian made leather goodsYouTube Channel Instagram
Members Constabulary Posted June 4, 2022 Members Report Posted June 4, 2022 overstitcher.... you learn something new everyday. That really is interesting. Will check them out... Thanks a lot for that hint. Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
Members jrny4wrd Posted June 4, 2022 Members Report Posted June 4, 2022 16 hours ago, bruce johnson said: No, I am talking about using an overstitch wheel on the bottom side of the stitching after machine sewing. This will dress the stitches and make them look more like the top stitches. Thanks, that’s what I meant. Going to have to try it. Hopefully it wont cut the thread at all, my wheel looks a bit sharp. Quote
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