Members tonioo Posted July 13, 2012 Members Report Posted July 13, 2012 Hi, as I see in the product catalogue, one type of head is for sure use to make the line near the edge or edge creasing. However, Are there any type of the tool's head that use to smooth the edge. I seen on the blog that one guy interview the Hermes craftswoman at the festival "Martine showed us how she sands down the edges of the leather with a hot tool to remove the excess glue and to get a smooth edge. When she’s satisfied that the edges are perfect, she then adds a layer of lacquer to seal them." So, if anybody know which head is use to do this, please tell me as I need to buy it thank you Quote
Members knazim Posted November 11, 2012 Members Report Posted November 11, 2012 Did Campbell Randal eventually made this tool and started selling it? Did someone get it from some place in US/Canada? Quote
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Members Andrew Chee Posted November 11, 2012 Members Report Posted November 11, 2012 After many months Campbell Randall finally did make this tool. I have just purchased one with anfewmhead attachments. Came out to around $300. I expect to receive it in the next few days. I will post some pics and observations once I've had a chance to use it a bit. Andrew Quote
Members Leather Guru Posted November 11, 2012 Members Report Posted November 11, 2012 The apparatus that you see is a filet electric . They can be obtained at Ets. Regad . fr . They are used as heated edge creasers to be used on chrome tanned leather ! they do not work well on veg tanned leather as they heat up too much & burn the leather . I have four of those devices in my atelier which I made the power supplies myself . Quote
Members Gump Posted November 11, 2012 Members Report Posted November 11, 2012 Hi folks; what I see here is known as a soldering station, there are literaly hundreds of models in various wattages. Some are quite cheap,< $ 100. The only problem might be getting the proper tips for what you want. But if you had one that took inserted tips you could probably cut off tools and insert into handle, as there must be a set screw or retainer of some sort that holds the soldering tips in place. I have seen similar irons at a electronics store I go to on occcasion, but never thought of this use for it. Will check this out next time I get in to this store. Gump. Quote
Members knazim Posted November 13, 2012 Members Report Posted November 13, 2012 Hi Andrew, Have you got your tool from Campbell? I could not find the part on Campbell's site. Can you suggest a part number or point out a contact that I should reach out to. Regards KN After many months Campbell Randall finally did make this tool. I have just purchased one with anfewmhead attachments. Came out to around $300. I expect to receive it in the next few days. I will post some pics and observations once I've had a chance to use it a bit. Andrew Quote
Members Andrew Chee Posted November 13, 2012 Members Report Posted November 13, 2012 Hi folks; what I see here is known as a soldering station, there are literaly hundreds of models in various wattages. Some are quite cheap,< $ 100. The only problem might be getting the proper tips for what you want. But if you had one that took inserted tips you could probably cut off tools and insert into handle, as there must be a set screw or retainer of some sort that holds the soldering tips in place. I have seen similar irons at a electronics store I go to on occcasion, but never thought of this use for it. Will check this out next time I get in to this store. Gump. So a large part of the cost is definitely the handle and heat controller. The tips are under $30 each which seems pretty reasonable since they're made in-house by Campbell Randall. I suppose you can find a heating unit and handle yourselves but what you're paying for is having them put together the whole setup for you. The tips use an custom adapter that lets then screw onto the handles and such. Andrew Quote
Members Andrew Chee Posted November 13, 2012 Members Report Posted November 13, 2012 (edited) Hi Andrew, Have you got your tool from Campbell? I could not find the part on Campbell's site. Can you suggest a part number or point out a contact that I should reach out to. Regards KN I'm still waiting on it. Here's a picture that they sent me of the tool. I've also attached the PDF brochure that they sent me. Hopefully you can view it. Andrew Hot-Glazing.pdf Edited November 13, 2012 by Andrew Chee Quote
Members CustomDoug Posted November 23, 2012 Members Report Posted November 23, 2012 (edited) So a large part of the cost is definitely the handle and heat controller. The tips are under $30 each which seems pretty reasonable since they're made in-house by Campbell Randall. I suppose you can find a heating unit and handle yourselves but what you're paying for is having them put together the whole setup for you. The tips use an custom adapter that lets then screw onto the handles and such.Andrew Andrew, did you ever get the above tool from Campbell-Bosworth? Seems like your order has taken a long time, is there a since that that's only because it was a first for them? How much are the Mando tips and handles separately? Because honestly those wooden and cork handles seem like they'd be better to hold the handle so that you could use more downward pressure while creasing an edge. The Janik S2 (single unit w/ 4 step heat control) is about $111 USD [70 GPB] plus shipping. I think the Mando single unit power box is about $240 - and with the Janik S2 you get the handle that looks like it accepts the same tips as the Mando unit, the mount feral looks the same. Ideally the Campbell tips would work too, though Campbell may have used a different mounting system I'm not sure. Surely their 'in-house' tips fit the Italian Bimac machines since they carry those (more expensive) units too. BTW, looking at both the units (Mando and Janik) it appears that the handle inputs are the same (two small round hole plug) as opposed to the unit that Campbell is putting together (normal pronged elec plug). So, that would make adding the Mando wooden handles to the Janik unit possible. The Mando single power unit is 16v max while the Janik S2 is 12v max and both are adjustable. Would 12v make enough heat? I think so but it's just a guess based on the fact that these machines are probably not run at max for everything they do. As I see it, the 'smart money' method for obtaining this tool would be: 1) Buy a Janik S2 2) Purchase tips from Mando 3) Eventually update the Janik handle to the Mando handles (as funds permit). Edited November 23, 2012 by CustomDoug Quote Does Anyone Know Where the Love of God Goes When the Waves Turn Minutes to Hours?
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