I Dont Like Change Not One Bit !

[bluesman1951]

I am a old man ,new to computers and I cant stand change ! I suppose the computer is not the place for me then . Some one put a lot of work into this new look here on this site . On one hand I should be honouring the work done on the other hand all I can think is "OH NO NOW ONCE AGAIN I FEEL LIKE A IDIOT " . I hate stumbling around blind trying to find out how things work after changes . I have always said if it works why change it ? Most of the time I end up frustrated and just go away after changes ,sad because I like this site and the people . As I get older and the world changes I feel less competent with each passing day . This is frustrating and I dont really know else to say . Its hell getting up each day and feeling like a idiot when you cant make things work . I am part of the on /off crowd why does one need more buttons than that ? What will come of this I have no idea ,will I be able to make it work I dont know . For now the familiar is gone and I am lost ,thats my problem for sure . Thats my two cents !!

[Horrrk]

Hi Bluesman.. I'm sure you're not alone with the changes..

I came on and was surprised by them this morning..lol

I'm finding my way round a bit now, but then again, it depends on which features you use most i guess..

I tend to just use the forum and occasionally pop into my profile if I want to quickly find out if there's any new comments on posts I've commented on already..

I'm missing the flags down the side of posts, cos I'm interested in where folk are in the real world, but its no biggy..

Just keep muddling through and if you're stuck, I'm sure someone will be happy to steer ya in the right direction..

Regards

Phil

[bruce johnson]

I am not much for change either, but with software it has to be updated occasionally. These forum wasn't built from scratch, it is on a software template. I don't think this particular version has been updated for a while. I am not a computer expert, but what I have found is that as the newer versions are developed, some of the previous features that I get used to aren't supported by the developers and you can end up with an orphan set up. Thye work with older browsers but not with new ones, and things like that. There are still some tweakings going on with options in the background, more apps to be added, so this isn't the final version but at least it is up and running with pretty minimal problems so far. Much happier than after the historic crash several years ago when everything was lost and a ton of hours were put in by Johanna and Kate to unscramble text and pictures and recreate the forum.

The main thing I have noticed so far was the "view new content". On the new version mine was on a setting that didn't list posts once I had read them. I knew it was there an hour ago, but where is it now?? I found the setting on the left menu bar and it gives you lots of options.

[jimmy eng]

I really like the lighter colours, makes the site easier to read. I haven't noticed too much difference yet but because I use Facebook a lot, it reminds me of it and it's a bit more familiar. I'd love to see a new Leatherworkers' banner and the return of the flags on the side of the posts too (and breaks in the posters' profile list).

[bluesman1951]

Hi Bluesman.. I'm sure you're not alone with the changes..

I came on and was surprised by them this morning..lol

I'm finding my way round a bit now, but then again, it depends on which features you use most i guess..

I tend to just use the forum and occasionally pop into my profile if I want to quickly find out if there's any new comments on posts I've commented on already..

I'm missing the flags down the side of posts, cos I'm interested in where folk are in the real world, but its no biggy..

Just keep muddling through and if you're stuck, I'm sure someone will be happy to steer ya in the right direction..

Regards

Phil

Phil,Thanks for your words! I had a favorite radio program I listened to for many years every night at bed time . The station folke decided to drop that program in favor of something else. That day I turned the radio off and it has not been turned back on in two years now . I listened for twenty years to that program and for me it was like loseing a old friend . Yes I miss the flags too ,it matters when you reply to something ,simply cant tell a guy in Russia to go to Tandy or buy something thats common to you in the states ,when he or she simply cant get that item . Makes you look like a fool ,and reminds others that life is just not like it is here for all . Thats unecessary and unkind . I dont know about you but I dont like feeling like a idiot or being told no to something . Right now every time I click on the gallery photos I am being told I dont have permission to view those . PERMISSION!!!!!!!! I dont need any bodys permission to see any thing that infuriates me to no end . Whats up with that any way ????? I have days full of NO's and annoying stuff every day ,people making decisions that affect your bottom line in a negative manner . What I need in my life is less things to click on ,less buttons ,fewer complications , and less annoyances . Right now I am sure I dont like the changes ,do you think removing the flags made any bodys life better ? No I think not and yet a decision was made that affected all in some manner ,and for what ??? Too make it better ??? I dont think so !! I want to thank you sincerely for your thoughts and words . Dont know what I am going to do ,I do know I am not going to deliberately going to annoy myself with something that has become difficult to use . Bill

[Johanna]

I am aware of the Gallery permission issue, and we're trying to fix it now. No one wants you to feel foolish or unwelcome. We're trying to give you a functional website to enjoy. Please give us a few days to work out the buggy stuff before you make a decision about us. We're trying very hard to do the best we can for our members.

Johanna

[bluesman1951]

I am not much for change either, but with software it has to be updated occasionally. These forum wasn't built from scratch, it is on a software template. I don't think this particular version has been updated for a while. I am not a computer expert, but what I have found is that as the newer versions are developed, some of the previous features that I get used to aren't supported by the developers and you can end up with an orphan set up. Thye work with older browsers but not with new ones, and things like that. There are still some tweakings going on with options in the background, more apps to be added, so this isn't the final version but at least it is up and running with pretty minimal problems so far. Much happier than after the historic crash several years ago when everything was lost and a ton of hours were put in by Johanna and Kate to unscramble text and pictures and recreate the forum.

The main thing I have noticed so far was the "view new content". On the new version mine was on a setting that didn't list posts once I had read them. I knew it was there an hour ago, but where is it now?? I found the setting on the left menu bar and it gives you lots of options.

Thanks for your words . Dont really know what to say because I dont understand all the computer stuff you spoke of . For me it either works or it dont . I am just too darn old to be putting up with a bunch of changes ,I like it when things work the way I rembered them . As the days stack up I would like to feel smarter rather than dumber with each passing day . LOL I am unhappy and sad with this I enjoyed being here and seeing all the work now am just frustrated and annoyed . Bill

[HellfireJack]

You'll be able to make it work. Don't fret. Change is inevitable.

It's not what has changed that matters. It's the things that have stayed the same that do. Look at it in the perspective of automobiles. There's a HUGE difference between a '76 Ford Fiesta and a '11 Lamborghini Gallardo as far as features go but as long as you know how to drive a manual transmission car you can drive still drive either. Whether you know how to use all of the Lambo's creature features or not it won't stop you from driving it.

When it comes right down to it all forums are the same. They all have categories, forums/sub forums, topics and posts. At the heart of it that's all you need in order to understand it's use. It doesn't matter what features the forum has, as long as you know that that basic navigation is the same you can pretty much use any forum. Don't let the bells and whistles blind you.

[LNLeather]

It is a Very Common Reaction for us humans to not like change. Usually once I get used to the new things I see that they

work better in the long run.

There is a section for Computer Help - down below Announcements and Administrivia (That should probably say Administrative)

I have never used it , but that might be a place to pose your technical computer questions...

Hey WOW, as I was writing this there was a pop-up window that said 1 new replies added. Show me. When I clicked on it

Bill's latest post came into view...... and again for Johanna's latest post..... This is a GREAT addition - so we wont miss any

new posts while we are writing!

I was going to say that we all should probably be patient and wait for problems with the new site changes to get ironed out, and then Johanna posted that very idea...

Just be patient and look for the new things on the site - don't be afraid to try something new, just to see what it does... It is like exploring a new place... lots of really good things here... Look at it with a positive outlook Please don't give up Learning new things keeps you Young

** I had a favorite radio program like yours be discontinued and I was really disappointed. 3 months later it turns out that program was

just put on a different radio station... You might be missing out on radio programs for no reason... try Googling what you were listening to and you might find out that there is an alternative way to listen to your program and maybe even more choices. I like to listen to the old radio shows and there are quite a few choices to be found in a Google search --------> old radio shows free online

[bruce johnson]

Thanks for your words . Dont really know what to say because I dont understand all the computer stuff you spoke of . For me it either works or it dont . I am just too darn old to be putting up with a bunch of changes ,I like it when things work the way I rembered them . As the days stack up I would like to feel smarter rather than dumber with each passing day . LOL I am unhappy and sad with this I enjoyed being here and seeing all the work now am just frustrated and annoyed . Bill

Bill,

Kind of think of the software like a car. Every year they come out with new models, kind of like new versions of software. Things change a bit with every new version. After a while they stop supporting the old versions, kind of like not stocking OEM footswitches for the dimmers on '67 Chevy pickups anymore. Because of other changes in browsers like Internet Explorer, Chrome, FireFox, etc. the software has to change to keep compatible. Just like new cars, the controls are moved and things look different because we have gone from the '67 Chevy to a 2012 Explorer without some of the changes in between. Even the administrators don't know exactly how things are going to look or work until the new version is in. That is where things are at right now. The big things are being squared away, other changes are being found and dealt with. As far as the applications like the flags, think of those as the aftermarket accessories. They will be reinstalled on the new version, but the first priority was to get the new version up and running first.

To further this car theme deal. I drive a 2002 Ford pickup. I know every control, can work them without looking. When I travel and rent something, it is an experience. If I can get the radio going and lights and wipers figured out in 10 minutes I am pretty pleased. Last year I changed the rear view mirror in Indianapolis and 10 seconds later was connected to OnStar. About time to turn the rental back in and I have them pretty well down. The new version of the forum will be that way too.