Chinese 29-K Clone

[mark66]

I just bought a Chinese patcher from Matt at Bantam Saddle and Tack and I love it. Needs to be thoroughly cleaned and oiled when you get it. I threw away the dink tripod legs and made my own from 3\8 pipe. Also used Plastic dip on the foot and that works like a dream, no marks on the material at all. Have used 69, 90 and 138 thread so far. Removed the less than useless bobbin winder and modified it to fit my cordless drill. Love it. Added a lock washer under the handwheel nut. Also changed to better, longer SAE nuts and bolts where I could. Anybody that shits on these machines either got a bad one, doesn't know what they are doing, or is some kind of Singer loving purist. I also own and use Singer 29k, Tippmann Boss and Techsew EA106 bought this machine for its portability and price.

Edited July 29, 2016 by mark66

[Miquel]

Hi my friends, my name is Miquel, I am from Spain, Near Barcelona city, I am new here, I think this is my first post, anyway I have had reading for a while several posts during the last months. I would like too to apologise if my english is not as good as I would like it to be... Anyway I will try my best.

I am writing refer to this chinese cobbler machine. I bought one of them and I am trying to obtain a nice stitch.

By now, the better stitch that I have achieved is this, see photo.

My thinking is that "maybe" would be easier  If I could use a bigger needle and a thicker yarn.

The problem, If the solution would goes for this side, is that I am already using the bigger needle according with the machine specifications, and the thickest yarn that the needle allows...

The needle that this machine use is a 15x2 flat bottom, 110 ( maximum comercial thickness) I attach a photo of the needle box.

So, any suggestion would be very apreciate, because by now, I don't like too much the stitch, I would like too to take the maximum profit that the machine allows.  Mu first thinking is that thicker needle and yarn would give me a nicer stitch, but I don't know wether I can use a bigger needle with compatibility with the machine...Thanks in advance for your comments, Miquel.

 

[Matt S]

Looks like Organ does a size 140 15x2. That should be right for M20/V138 but I don't know if your machine will do it.

[Miquel]

Hi Matt, thanks for your reply. I will check  the Needles Organ brand, Refer the yarn I will check too.

 

[Darren Brosowski]

If you have trouble getting leather needles in Nm140 then just use 134 leather needles which are readily available.

You may need to adjust the bed so the needle centres in the needle plate hole but that is rare.

 

By the way....

These are not in any way related to the Singer 29 as they are based roughly on the 1860's German patcher design which pre dates the 29 by 20-30 years

 

[alexitbe]

6 hours ago, Darren Brosowski said:

 

By the way....

These are not in any way related to the Singer 29 as they are based roughly on the 1860's German patcher design which pre dates the 29 by 20-30 years

 

I think this is called the Patent Elastic....  Claes produced something similar to it, infact there were quite a few copies by various companies and they all pretty much look the same.

Claes still make a patcher and it is the best patcher you will find... it can do 12 mm thick leather with no change in stitch length

Alex

[Miquel]

Hi Darren, thanks for your support. By now I have bought some organ needles, 130 size, 15x2 system, for leather.

Still have no checked with the machine, I am in holidays just now, anyway I will check soon.

I keep in mind your suggestion about the 134 needles, I think that i have several of them at home, as I have an old german 29k style machine.

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