Moderator Wizcrafts Posted March 17, 2013 Moderator Report Posted March 17, 2013 (edited) Problem: top thread lifts out of center of top tension disks, causing thread knots and loops to appear under the bottom layer.. Solution: You might want to try what I did to keep the thread inside the top tension disks, if they have a pin on the right side holding them in position. Take your top thread out of everything on the machine. If you have a top post, ur a 3 hole guide, loop around it as needed to get a smooth pull off the thread stand and spool. Then feed the thread under the pin on the right side of the disks, then bend it sharply up and around the center of the disks (raise the presser foot to relieve the tension). Then feed it down to the check spring and through the take-up and guides. You will need to reduce your tension spring setting to compensate for the sharp turn, but the thread should stay inside the disks from now on. Edited March 17, 2013 by Wizcrafts Quote Posted IMHO, by Wiz My current crop of sewing machines: Cowboy CB4500, Singer 107w3, Singer 139w109, Singer 168G101, Singer 29k71, Singer 31-15, Singer 111w103, Singer 211G156, Adler 30-7 on power stand, Techsew 2700, Fortuna power skiver and a Pfaff 4 thread 2 needle serger.
Members miaoreo Posted March 18, 2013 Author Members Report Posted March 18, 2013 Wiz! you are a Genius! That worked! It sews! Thank you! But.... and don't you hate buts.... only with the original needle that was in the machine. Soooo it took it out and with a magnifying glass read the tiny tiny print on the shank. it says "SINGER 130/21" My new needles won't pick up the bottom thread. Same size, same everything, except brand. These are ORGAN brand needles.. I laid them side by side and the ORGAN brand needles are 4mm SHORTER! They won't pickup the bobbin thread. OH GOOD GRIEF! Is this some evil plot to save 1/100000 of a bit of metal? Or is there some secrect code for "LENGTH" of the needle? I cannot find anywhere it says they come in different lengths. I ordered them as SINGER 211 needles. just sign me "Totally Frustrated" Quote
CowboyBob Posted March 18, 2013 Report Posted March 18, 2013 They should of asked you the rest of the model# the 211 w/needle feed take shorter needles(135x5)11/2" long than the 211 w/walking foot that take 135x17 or 135x16 leather point 13/4" long Quote Bob Kovar Toledo Industrial Sewing Machine Sales Ltd. 3631 Marine Rd Toledo,Ohio 43609 1-866-362-7397
Members miaoreo Posted March 18, 2013 Author Members Report Posted March 18, 2013 (edited) Thanks Bob.... and I just spent about an hour on the phone with Cut and Sew Services in L.A. who handle vintage singer parts and they are sending me the correct needles. Very Very nice folks. I should have asked here first and ordered from someone here. my bad. Edited March 18, 2013 by miaoreo Quote
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