Singer 111G156 - Timing Belt Replacement

[Constabulary]

Picture is of my 111G156, its the only Singer I have.

I also noticed that part 264527 Tension Disc Slide is not mentioned in the 111G156 parts list. But I think this little parts would solve the problem that your pin is not coming out of the housing. I have no other explanation.

I just took a close look at one of the pictures - your machine seem to have 2 washers (or what is it) instead of the Tension Disc Slide.

Edited October 5, 2013 by Constabulary

[cdthayer]

Picture is of my 111G156, its the only Singer I have.

...- your machine seem to have 2 washers (or what is it) instead of the Tension Disc Slide.

What looks like 2 washers is three wraps of the coil spring on the rear presser bar. The light reflecting off of the shinny bar makes the spring wraps look like the edge of washers. I'm wondering what else besides the Tension Disc Slide could be missing, even though it's not listed in the Parts List. There's got to be something coming up below the Lifting Bracket to push the pin in. The Lifting Bracket is hollow to slide up past the pin without pushing it in.

I've been resetting my shaft collar and Safety Clutch. I think I have the correct set screw in the groove now. I thought it had really changed the needle timing, until I noticed that the Safety Clutch was tripped. I must have done that yesterday while I was messing with it. At least I know my Safety Clutch works now.

When I went to set my hook timing, the set screws in the Hook Driving Pinion Gear were turned in backwards from where they should have been. I took them out one at a time and didn't see a flat spot under either of them, so I figured that the gear was set wrong. I needed to clean some rust out of the hook and bobbin case anyway, so I went ahead and pulled the Hook Shaft. There's a definite groove in the shaft for one of the set screws that I would have seen, so the timing was way out of whack on this machine. I just hope they didn't reset all of the other timing when they (whoever it was) were jacking around with things. I didn't check the Upper Belt Pulley when I had the belt off. Hopefully, they didn't reset that.

I found a sheet metal screw in place of one of the Feed Dog screws, so now I've got to decide if I want to replace the Feed Bar or not. It was in tight, so I may go with it for now, or at least until I see if I can get the thing to sew before I drop that $35. Poor men have poor ways, so I've got to cut them some slack for trying to make do with what they could, but I wonder if they ever got any sewing done with the thing?

CD in Oklahoma

[Constabulary]

ouch - the feet look as if someone welted or soldered them.

I think the former owner really messed with the machine. Probably because he had no manual for it. I always wonder where all the original manuals are gone? There are thousands of machines around but where are all the manuals that came with the machines? I always download manuals when I find them. I have about 100 manuals (PDF´s) for machines I have never owned - you never know.

[cdthayer]

ouch - the feet look as if someone welted or soldered them.....

Like I say, poor men have poor ways. Yes, both of these feet have been braised back together. Here's another look at them. They're going into my "unusual collectables" box.

I wish that I had more history information about this machine. I know that it was with the belongings of a 47-year upholstery shop that closed in 2008. It wasn't in use as the primary machine when I was in the shop in 2006. He was using a Pfaff at that time, and had been for quite a long time from what I understood. I was just getting acquainted with sewing machines then, so I don't know if the Singer that I saw setting unused in the shop was this one or not, but I think it probably was. After seeing how the timing was so out of whack on it, I can see why it was setting unused....

CD in Oklahoma

[cdthayer]

I also noticed that part 264527 Tension Disc Slide is not mentioned in the 111G156 parts list.

The part is listed in the 111G156 Parts List as #240500 Tension Release Slide, that's where we missed it. As far as I can tell, it's basically the same part, and I have one coming for my machine.

I'm not sure why mine is missing, but the knee-lift linkage is missing too, so maybe they had a problem with the lift and the Slide was damaged or got left out during reassembly.

Thanks for your photo. I would have been a long time figuring out what was missing.

CD in Oklahoma

[Constabulary]

You are welcome! Maybe next time you can help me with something!

[Rayban]

Mine had some band-aids and home made parts when I got it too....I had Bob at Toledo Industrial give it the once over and it's running great now.

[cdthayer]

....Maybe next time you can help me with something!

I see that you're interested in US WWII - Vietnam militaria, sewing + repairing military canvas + leather items. Have you studied WWII Rigger Shops? Do you do any of the military style sewing?

There's a group setting up a Rigger Shop here locally in a restored WWII hanger at our airport that used to be an Army Air Field. They do WWII style static line parachute jumps at events throughout the United States and Europe. Their program is about as authentic WWII as you can get. They bail out of a restored C47 named "Boogie Baby", and when they're headed out, they fly it low over town (and my house) to let everyone know when there's going to be a jump.

Check them out at: WWII Airborne Demonstration Team

CD in Oklahoma

[cdthayer]

Mine had some band-aids and home made parts when I got it too....I had Bob at Toledo Industrial give it the once over and it's running great now.

Thanks Rayban. I've heard that Bob is pretty good. I tried contacting him a few years ago about a darning foot for a Singer 96-40, but I never heard back from anyone. I ended up buying one from another Vendor. My distributor didn't stock them so I had to go hunting one.

CD in Oklahoma

[cdthayer]

My Tension Release Slide Part #240500 arrived yesterday, and I put it in this morning. What a piece of crap. I wish I could find well-made parts for these old machines. I could tell by looking at it that it wasn't going to fit without major modifications. It may give me problems when I sew something thick, because the guide pin was bent wrong and you can't re-bend a 90-degree piece of metal without breaking it, so I just broke it off. I'll have tension release when I raise the feet by hand or with the knee lift, but I may also get tension release when I sew something thick. I don't think that it will operate independently from the lift bracket, but it might. I'll watch for an original Singer part from a donor machine and change it out if I find one.

I got another batch of replacement parts in today for my tension assembly, so if I can get them on in the morning, I'll try to get the presser feet and upper tension adjusted.

CD in Oklahoma