Where Can I Find The Equivalent Tool Or Product In The Uk

[Macca]

[Sona]

Awesome idea. Actually that´s a topic I though about for a long time right now, even if I am more interested in the german alternatives. BUT as we are all in the european customs area, what about expanding this thread to get an even bigger overview? I mean, we got no such shipping costs we´d have for ordering from the USA and we got no VAT... normally the delivery is a little bit more expensive, but that shouldn´t be that much of a problem (Just mentioning... I could tell you a shop where you could buy that leg clam you´d like to have (not the fancy, gorgeous custom made ones, but simple ones from I think 40€ to higher Quality (blanchard and stuff) for about 120 €))

If you agree with the europe-idea I´d just start with a list for gemany as I know some shops here and there.... and maybe the "list" should be updated in the first post now and then for a better overview? Or even seperated posts for different stuff (countries, tools, hardware, [....]) Just as an idea.

[Camerius]

I get all of my Fiebing's from here (http://www.patin-a.de/ki/en/Leather-Dye-538.html), Sona. They are good, in Germany, got fast delivery and are way cheaper than getting it from say the US or UK.

As to thread, I tend to get my 0.8 mm poly over ebay (from China at the moment), while I'm still looking for a good supplier for 18/3 and 18/4 linen thread that does not cost a fortune. As to glue I use some danish version of a contact cement and Sikabond 530 (white PVA glue) that I too can get locally here.

Hope it helps.

[Sona]

@Camerius: Thanks, even if I know them already and ordered a lot of stuff there. Good shop.

I´ll jus list my suppliers here, if this should be a UK-Thread, I´ll open up on seperately.

So same for my list: use google to find them, maybe I´ll add some links later on.

Leder Detmer in Hamburg

Wholesaler. Mainly interesting for hide other than veg tanned. Got some tools (“Ivan”-brandt) and stuff like dyes and thread and just a lot of hardware like buckles and stuff. But as this is mostly zinc dyecasted, it´s not interesting for me at all. Got nearly nothin´ in brass or similar. Buying here means visiting the shop, as they deliver normally just to big customers

Lederhaus in Duisburg - Nice for dyes and maybe some scrap leather stuff. The veg tan is the worst I got so far and they don´t really sell a lot of tools. But on dyes they are the cheapest I found over here so far (even cheaper than “PATIN-A” mentioned above, but not with such a big selection)

Leder-Hobby in Berlin

Nice shopkeeper, got nearly all the Tandy stuff plus Fiebings. No experience with hide from there.

Leder Baumann in Munich

Little shop, little selection of tools, dyes and hides. Might be interesting if you are in a hurry as they are no leatherworkers at all and they are really expensive!

Bear Gallery near Munich

One person shop, good quality on the hide, but they only got tooling veg. Tanned cowhides (I guess american ones) Tools are from Tandy, even though they switch to craftsjapan right now and got some of Douglas- and Beard- tools. Nice hardware, casted as solid brass, dyes and thread. No online shop, mail would be the way to go.

Lederhandlung Klaus Flach in Kiel

My favorite one. Best hides I ever had are from here. Has a lot of tools (mostly Tandy again), hardware (brass as casted) dyes, thread... all in all everything you need, even pig an steel bristles. Plus he has a lot of fancy stuff: Tanned frogs, toad, some types fish, ostrich(-feet), even cow stomach and testicles ^^. Also, “damaged” stuff for the special look with warble fly-damages and stuff for like half the price. No online shop, mail would be the way to go.

Kappey.de

As Flach is my favorite for leather, this one is the one for tools. It´s a professional saddlery-supplier and therefore got all the professional tools you won´t get in all that hobbyshops around. Quality: Mainly Blanchard, Dixon and Osborn, some “Mauthe” and smaller/german ones, too. No online shop, mail would be the way to go. If they don´t answer send a second one or call them. Nice, but busy people.

Kuertengmbh.de

read it in a post from another member here but didn´t order anything yet. Supplier for shoemakers, no experiences but nice looking assortement.

So there are some more as "rickert-werkzeuge", "worring Leder" and so on. But either they are focused on medieval stuff (so, more on the low quality side of life) or are warehouses as well. But they all got in common: I didn´t order or buy leather from them, because I got my main supplier and I won´t expect them to beat the quality I get right now But they still might be worth to have a look at. They also got japanese tools (rickert i.e.) and other stuff.

So for some special ones:

Dye

– PATIN-A: huge selection of Fiebings stuff to a very low price. Fast delivering, nice service.

- http://www.lederfarbekaufen.de/angelus-lederfarbe.html: Just for the need of Angelus dyes and acrylics.

Thread

- www.croupon-lederhandel.de So called “Forellenfaden”, nice braided polythread from 0.8 to 1.4mm. 0.8 up to 1000m on a spool (for about 30,-) thicker ones up to 500m on a spool (for like 22,-)

Brass rings and similar

- www.toplicht.de/ made good experience with them. Solid stuff, polished and a little thicker than the stuff you usually get as it´s made for sailing. They also got some nice fasteners and carabiners.

Polymauls

– not ordered there as I´ll order some fancy stuff, but as a cheap alternative to the 100,- + mauls they might work quite good.

Medieval stuff

- http://lorifactor.com/katalog.html not settled in Germany, therefore longer time for delivery and higher price/order through the distance, but everything is solid stuff, brass, nice to work with!

- www.fahrendehaendler.de also nice buckles and hardware, settled in Germany. The assorment is a little bit smaller than from Lorifactor.

- http://www.reenactors-shop.de/index.php?cat=c232_Sonstiges-Guertelzubehoer.html Again a german supplier for buckles and fittings.

- http://www.todsstuff.co.uk/todsfoundry/strapends.htm settled in the UK, never ordered there but the products look quite nice and solid though they are a little bit more on the pricey side of life.

Contact cement

- http://shop.langlauf-schuhbedarf.de/Klebstoffe:::21.html as you can get it here in 4kg-canisters... much (!) cheaper than buying thos little cnas one by one. It´s Kövulfix, which I prefer over stuff like Pattex at least because it´s transparent.

In addition, I´d recommend to get on of those “Sparbehälter” mentioned on that side. Just a joy to work with.

So that´s for now... more might follow if I find some interesting shops.

Edited July 28, 2014 by Sona

[ClaireAshton]

Phew!

Comprehensive indeed. Hopefully, as this topic is 'Pinned' it will become the goto place for European supplies.

BW Claire

[Camerius]

@Camerius: Thanks, even if I know them already and ordered a lot of stuff there. Good shop.

I´ll jus list my suppliers here, if this should be a UK-Thread, I´ll open up on seperately.

So same for my list: use google to find them, maybe I´ll add some links later on.

Leder Detmer in Hamburg

Wholesaler. Mainly interesting for hide other than veg tanned. Got some tools (“Ivan”-brandt) and stuff like dyes and thread and just a lot of hardware like buckles and stuff. But as this is mostly zinc dyecasted, it´s not interesting for me at all. Got nearly nothin´ in brass or similar. Buying here means visiting the shop, as they deliver normally just to big customers

Lederhaus in Duisburg - Nice for dyes and maybe some scrap leather stuff. The veg tan is the worst I got so far and they don´t really sell a lot of tools. But on dyes they are the cheapest I found over here so far (even cheaper than “PATIN-A” mentioned above, but not with such a big selection)

Leder-Hobby in Berlin

Nice shopkeeper, got nearly all the Tandy stuff plus Fiebings. No experience with hide from there.

Leder Baumann in Munich

Little shop, little selection of tools, dyes and hides. Might be interesting if you are in a hurry as they are no leatherworkers at all and they are really expensive!

Bear Gallery near Munich

One person shop, good quality on the hide, but they only got tooling veg. Tanned cowhides (I guess american ones) Tools are from Tandy, even though they switch to craftsjapan right now and got some of Douglas- and Beard- tools. Nice hardware, casted as solid brass, dyes and thread. No online shop, mail would be the way to go.

Lederhandlung Klaus Flach in Kiel

My favorite one. Best hides I ever had are from here. Has a lot of tools (mostly Tandy again), hardware (brass as casted) dyes, thread... all in all everything you need, even pig an steel bristles. Plus he has a lot of fancy stuff: Tanned frogs, toad, some types fish, ostrich(-feet), even cow stomach and testicles ^^. Also, “damaged” stuff for the special look with warble fly-damages and stuff for like half the price. No online shop, mail would be the way to go.

Kappey.de

As Flach is my favorite for leather, this one is the one for tools. It´s a professional saddlery-supplier and therefore got all the professional tools you won´t get in all that hobbyshops around. Quality: Mainly Blanchard, Dixon and Osborn, some “Mauthe” and smaller/german ones, too. No online shop, mail would be the way to go. If they don´t answer send a second one or call them. Nice, but busy people.

Kuertengmbh.de

read it in a post from another member here but didn´t order anything yet. Supplier for shoemakers, no experiences but nice looking assortement.

So there are some more as "rickert-werkzeuge", "worring Leder" and so on. But either they are focused on medieval stuff (so, more on the low quality side of life) or are warehouses as well. But they all got in common: I didn´t order or buy leather from them, because I got my main supplier and I won´t expect them to beat the quality I get right now But they still might be worth to have a look at. They also got japanese tools (rickert i.e.) and other stuff.

So for some special ones:

Dye

– PATIN-A: huge selection of Fiebings stuff to a very low price. Fast delivering, nice service.

- http://www.lederfarbekaufen.de/angelus-lederfarbe.html: Just for the need of Angelus dyes and acrylics.

Thread

- www.croupon-lederhandel.de So called “Forellenfaden”, nice braided polythread from 0.8 to 1.4mm. 0.8 up to 1000m on a spool (for about 30,-) thicker ones up to 500m on a spool (for like 22,-)

Brass rings and similar

- www.toplicht.de/ made good experience with them. Solid stuff, polished and a little thicker than the stuff you usually get as it´s made for sailing. They also got some nice fasteners and carabiners.

Polymauls

– not ordered there as I´ll order some fancy stuff, but as a cheap alternative to the 100,- + mauls they might work quite good.

Medieval stuff

- http://lorifactor.com/katalog.html not settled in Germany, therefore longer time for delivery and higher price/order through the distance, but everything is solid stuff, brass, nice to work with!

- www.fahrendehaendler.de also nice buckles and hardware, settled in Germany. The assorment is a little bit smaller than from Lorifactor.

- http://www.reenactors-shop.de/index.php?cat=c232_Sonstiges-Guertelzubehoer.html Again a german supplier for buckles and fittings.

- http://www.todsstuff.co.uk/todsfoundry/strapends.htm settled in the UK, never ordered there but the products look quite nice and solid though they are a little bit more on the pricey side of life.

Contact cement

- http://shop.langlauf-schuhbedarf.de/Klebstoffe:::21.html as you can get it here in 4kg-canisters... much (!) cheaper than buying thos little cnas one by one. It´s Kövulfix, which I prefer over stuff like Pattex at least because it´s transparent.

In addition, I´d recommend to get on of those “Sparbehälter” mentioned on that side. Just a joy to work with.

So that´s for now... more might follow if I find some interesting shops.

Yeah, I use Klaus Flach in Kiel too. He has some of the best leather I have come across, besides the ones that I get from Laederiet here in Denmark.

[Sona]

Haha, yeah I just like to get the best quality I can and therefore I try to "hunt down" good shops, offering what I need/want. Besides, if I travel around I always have a look whether a shop is nearby so I get an impression of their stuff and of the shopkeepers.

And I think your list might be even longer than mine, just better compressed and organized. XD

@Camerius:
Oh yeah, just forgot that one I keep an eye on this one for some time right now, but never ordered there, too. So you got some (positive) experience with them?
I am happy to hear that you like and "use" Flach, too. As said before, I just love him ^^.
But just for the overview - maybe delete the quote? I think it takes a lot of space

So one addition in Denmark:

www.laederiet.dk/ - Also carry Blanchard and similar for a good price as I think.

Edited July 28, 2014 by Sona

[Birdman]

A few years ago I used Bakers of Colyton . They do some very nice leather.

The boss actually does/did a regular route around the UK delivering the leather personally. I did not have to pay until it was delivered and approved in my workshop.

I would get a postcard from the firm saying that " their Mr.....would be in my area on...... and my esteemed order would b most welcome".

Very quaint old English service from a thoroughly charming gentleman!

http://www.jfjbaker.co.uk/

[Camerius]

I just tried to edit it, Sona, but no go. Seems like if you have been logged off for a certain period of time, you are no longer able to go back and edit your post. :/

[Northmount]

I just tried to edit it, Sona, but no go. Seems like if you have been logged off for a certain period of time, you are no longer able to go back and edit your post. :/

That is right. If you want to have parts of this thread edited, you can PM me with the edits you want. Or compile them into a PDF that we can post (I have PDF software I can use). I'll make the offer for this thread, but not for all threads. Have other stuff I should be doing! PM me and let me know, I'll provide my email for larger files.

Tom