Ken B Report post Posted November 13, 2014 Does anyone know if Cobra, Techsew, or if Juki or Adler make a similar machine to the Cowboy CB-243? It is a flat bed machine based on the 441. The CD-243 is priced too highly in my opinion, at $2900. Looking for an alternative. Thanks for the input! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Constabulary Report post Posted November 13, 2014 (edited) How about a CB4500 with flat bed attachment if you need a machine with the same specs. I think Juki and Adler will be even more expensive!!! just as a quick shot - Jukis alternative would be TNU-243 & TU-273 or Cosew 757 & 2040 Edited November 13, 2014 by Constabulary Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ken B Report post Posted November 13, 2014 How about a CB4500 with flat bed attachment That sounds really interesting, and better than a flat bed machine. I've never seen a flat bed attachment before now. Do you happen to have any good recommendations for where I could pickup a flat bed attachment? So far I've only found one, and it's for a machine I'm none to interested in. True about the Juki and Adler, but I've had good luck finding used, older sewing machines from them for less money, so I'm just keeping the options open. =) Thanks so much for the input, the flat bed attachment sounds like the way to go. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Northmount Report post Posted November 13, 2014 Make your own table attachment. This one just drops in place, the legs fold up for storage. Your design would depend on the type of table you get with your machine. Tom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wizcrafts Report post Posted November 13, 2014 I used to have an Adler 204-370. This is the same machine as the Cowboy CB-243. If you think the CB-243 is too expensive, at $2900, try finding a new or unused Adler 204-370 for under $5,000. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Techsew Ron Report post Posted November 13, 2014 That sounds really interesting, and better than a flat bed machine. I've never seen a flat bed attachment before now. Do you happen to have any good recommendations for where I could pickup a flat bed attachment? So far I've only found one, and it's for a machine I'm none to interested in. True about the Juki and Adler, but I've had good luck finding used, older sewing machines from them for less money, so I'm just keeping the options open. =) Thanks so much for the input, the flat bed attachment sounds like the way to go. cylinder arm with flatbed attachment is the right call, you get the best of both worlds! Ron Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeymender Report post Posted November 13, 2014 Toledo industrial sewing machine sells the flatbed attachment for the CB 4500. I have one and it's great, two machines in one. I believe the flatbed setup is less than $100, but double check that figure. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ken B Report post Posted November 14, 2014 (edited) You guys are awesome; thanks so much! The CB4500 and CB5500 seem more appropriately priced. The Techsew 5100 also looks nice, and also has a $99 flat bed attachment. I think the cylinder arm is the right way to go. Edit: for anyone else that stumbles across this thread with a similar question. If you really need a dedicated flat bed, I think the Tech Sew 180, long arm, heavy duty flat bed machine is a better alternative to the cd-243, based on the price difference. Edited November 14, 2014 by Ken B Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Constabulary Report post Posted November 14, 2014 Seems everything is answered. BTW - this is the accessory page from Toledo Sewing: http://www.tolindsewmach.com/cb-acc-pack.html Flat bed is $85 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Techsew Ron Report post Posted November 14, 2014 for anyone else that stumbles across this thread with a similar question. If you really need a dedicated flat bed, I think the Tech Sew 180, long arm, heavy duty flat bed machine is a better alternative to the cd-243, based on the price difference. The 180 is a really nice machine for heavy duty webbing, parachute harnesses, technical materials and more. People tend to go for a cylinder machine for leather projects because of the versatility, but for those who need a dedicated long arm heavy duty flatbed machine the 180 is a popular choice. Ron Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites