First Builds Using The New Machine

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Well......I was about to argue......then I reminded myself that I am asking questions because yall no more. The last picture of the lighter color thumb break holster.....I would have sworn I had it set at 5 per inch..................foot in mouth.....swallow my pride........heck I was wrong.........

Sure enough. I COULD HAVE SWORN I CHANGED THAT....... well Back to the begining aagain....thanks for your patience

One of my frustrations has been it took me much trial and error to realize that some things were "free floating" or not tightened down and moving and getting worse each time I used it. In a frustrated state, I guess when I tightened several nuts I messed up my adjustments.

learning as we go

[JLSleather]

Just like you set tensions, and check before you stick it in the high-dollar stuff.. don't hurt to throw a ruler on it if you've been moving things.

This is purdy durn close ta 6/inch. You can see that the stitch line turns at 1 1/2", three more stitches (3 per 1/2") so it's consistent.

Oh, that's 277 thread with a 24 needle.

[BHPshooter]

6/inch should be fine. But either that first picture is SERIOUSLY misleading somehow, or yer measurin' stick is broke That LOOKS much smaller than a six. Keep in mind the type of needle can make it appear a bit different.

Here's a pic, jus a piece o' scrap.. showing 6/inch. The natural thread is a needle with an LL point. The black thread is done with an 'LR' needle, WITHOUT changing the stitch length.

Stick a ruler next to it, and get right at 6 / inch.

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JLS, can I ask where you've found needles with different points? I've been looking for LR point needles online with no luck... All I can find are S points.

[Red Cent]

BHP, the picture shown and all my leather products have been sewn with an "S" needle.

http://www.schmetzneedles.com/learning/pdf/leather-needles.pdf

http://www.thethreadexchange.com/miva/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=nylon-thread

Edited November 23, 2014 by Red Cent

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So is sewing 277 thread with a 24 needle going to have any bad effects??

[Ferg]

I have a few comments:

First of all, no one at Toledo Industrial put a quart of oil into your machine. I believe that may be your frustration talking.

Also, If you are getting less than top notch service from Bob and/or Bobby, there is more to this story than you are telling.

Did you say you had loosened some fasteners? Obviously you did not know what you were doing and may indicate somewhat, why you think you aren't getting service from Bob.

If I am completely wrong, I will be the first to say I am sorry. Sit back and take a deep breath and ask Bob for help in the manner you should.

ferg

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I have a few comments:

First of all, no one at Toledo Industrial put a quart of oil into your machine. I believe that may be your frustration talking.

Now ...ask yourself .......Would anyone actually think there was a quart of oil inside? Think about it????? It is a comment to say that there is excessive oil.............the which Bob said was possible to have happened.

Also, If you are getting less than top notch service from Bob and/or Bobby, there is more to this story than you are telling.

YOU dont know ONE deatil. 100 PERCENT ASSUMING threres now way that what I said was a genuine experience

Did you say you had loosened some fasteners? Obviously you did not know what you were doing and may indicate somewhat, why you think you aren't getting service from Bob.

Nowhere was that said....read it and see no where. so obviously if there was a problem it is AUTOMATICALLY assumed WITHOUT KNOWING ONE DETAIL

If I am completely wrong, I will be the first to say I am sorry. Sit back and take a deep breath and ask Bob for help in the manner you should.

AGAIN assuming I need to take a deep breath.....ASSUMING things and NEVER ONCE considering that what I said might be valid.

ferg

[JLSleather]

So is sewing 277 thread with a 24 needle going to have any bad effects??

Doesn't seem to. I'm not the only one doing it, either. I could steer you to one guy's website of very nice looking holsters - who uses 277 with 24's - but I'll let him pipe in if he cares to.

[JLSleather]

JLS, can I ask where you've found needles with different points? I've been looking for LR point needles online with no luck... All I can find are S points.

That's a good question. I was thinking I got these from Bob (toledo) but not on the receipt. Maybe some that she ordered.. we'll find out together!

[Eaglestroker]

I've ordered different needles from the Leather Machine Co, but had to call. Try to give them first crack at things.

I sew primarily with 277 or 306 and a 23/24/25 needle, mostly 24. After you run the machine for a while you will notice small differences with each but right now you need to get the bulk set before you really dial in and fine tune it.