Found - Hermes Edge Paint!

[DavidL]

fine leather working.com has edge paint 4 ounces for 18. It says in the description it is concentrated and used in high end brands.

Could be relabelled stahl edge paint.

One question to yoji - did you get any info about how long the paint will last before it expires. I read from another member 1 year until it expires although I'm not sure on his source of info.

I contacted stahl.com and they will be replying shortly. They have representatives in USA.

[yoji]

hi yigi, i live in europe, Germany i have been looking for this Stahl paint for a long time, do you know from where can i order it?

hi kidinsky, well i was looking for it for a long time also and stumbled upon a guy in a tannery, long story short he got me the right guy to talk to and i took a flight inside europe just to go and see him and to get some of this paint. unfortunately the guy is not suppose to sell it to anyone. the stahl paint that hermes uses is not the regular stahl edge paint. they make it specially for them. I bought enough to my self and and got some for people who contacted me and asked for some paint. If you are interested i will be flying to probably within the next two months. and i might get some for you also. let me know if you are interested. Take into consideration that i cant get my hands on for more than couple of liters at most.

fine leather working.com has edge paint 4 ounces for 18. It says in the description it is concentrated and used in high end brands.

Could be relabelled stahl edge paint.

One question to yoji - did you get any info about how long the paint will last before it expires. I read from another member 1 year until it expires although I'm not sure on his source of info.

I contacted stahl.com and they will be replying shortly. They have representatives in USA.

well i have not tried their product so no idea on that. But i have tried lots of rebranded products and most of the time it is just fenice plus (the thicker) paint. But fine leather working.com does sell quality products so maybe they are selling the regular stahl edge paint. I reaaaaaaaaly dont think that they were able to get their hands on the hermes edge paint and selling it.

I think that i have contacted probably every distributor of stahl all over the world and probably they have all blacklisted me already ))))) , and recently got invited to stahl master workshop in france specificly for the edge finishing, apperantly they are having a sort of seminar about edge finishing. it is going to be 4 days and i am still thinking to go or not.. anyway, getting the stahl edge finishing product is really not a problem at all, you can get it in US for sure. You should be able to get it from the leather industry suppliers it is a generic product. not bad at all. tried it, but it is just not working good enough with hot glazing. it just burns out quickly and peels when you make more than one layer. it is designed to be applied by machine in one pass.

Edited January 7, 2015 by yoji

[Eemo]

Hey,

Do you know what is the product number or ID for the Stahl paint?

thanks,

Eero

[shantiandd]

Hi yigi, I was searching for the Stahl paint for a long time. I am living in Japan..

.I don't know if I could still order from you?if so, do you know how much the shipping cost would be probably...cuz it is international shipping.

[sunlake]

hi yoji,

Thanks for this detailed information.

I have tried some products from Fiebing's and Fenice, but never satisfied.

I live in Germany, can i order some Stahl edge paint form you?

thanks.

[malchik]

What to say, people gets obsessed what the big one uses (have been in this train as well) forgetting that the most important is how to use it. Thick paints are intended for use in edge machines and usually doesn't works well with electric creasers and hot edge treatment. Hermés uses a lot of machinery, also edge paint machines, so what Hermés uses it's a broad term. If you are doing edge finish by hand and your technique demands use of hot edging (i.e. edge durability) like in the case of Hermés bags, than you have to use edge paint with less viscosity enabling paint to penetrate deeper into the edge. By applying hot iron treatment, the layer of paint melts down producing strongest bond you can get (much stronger than with thick paint).

Regarding how many layers you need for neat edge, I usually need 2 or 3 to make a perfect edge both with Tandy Professional Edge (Fenice), Giardini semi dense matt and Vernis 600. The trick is to make edge layers as even as possible, lightly sanded, before you apply the paint. Those three mentioned paints are pretty similar in the final result and in terms of durability. Giardini (cooperates with Stahl) and Fenice are by my opinion acrylics, but for vernis 600 I'm not sure, it doesn't appears as an acrylic. Real difference is temperature of hot iron required to melt down the paint (V600 requires higher)...

So, morale of the story is don't get blinded what Big Names uses, find what works for you best

[cjmt]

What to say, people gets obsessed what the big one uses (have been in this train as well) forgetting that the most important is how to use it. Thick paints are intended for use in edge machines and usually doesn't works well with electric creasers and hot edge treatment. Hermés uses a lot of machinery, also edge paint machines, so what Hermés uses it's a broad term. If you are doing edge finish by hand and your technique demands use of hot edging (i.e. edge durability) like in the case of Hermés bags, than you have to use edge paint with less viscosity enabling paint to penetrate deeper into the edge. By applying hot iron treatment, the layer of paint melts down producing strongest bond you can get (much stronger than with thick paint).

Regarding how many layers you need for neat edge, I usually need 2 or 3 to make a perfect edge both with Tandy Professional Edge (Fenice), Giardini semi dense matt and Vernis 600. The trick is to make edge layers as even as possible, lightly sanded, before you apply the paint. Those three mentioned paints are pretty similar in the final result and in terms of durability. Giardini (cooperates with Stahl) and Fenice are by my opinion acrylics, but for vernis 600 I'm not sure, it doesn't appears as an acrylic. Real difference is temperature of hot iron required to melt down the paint (V600 requires higher)...

So, morale of the story is don't get blinded what Big Names uses, find what works for you best

Lots of good sense here!

Charlie

[atelieramyroke]

Hi guys,

 

This is Atelier Amy Roke. I found this post and saw that people are looking for Stahl heatable edge paint using by Hermes. 

We just got the sole distribution on this product and would like to provide service to you guys.

We have 200ml package in Black, Dark Brown, Grey, Red, Blue,Yellow and White. All color is mixable.

If you guys decided to purchase more than 5kg at once, the postage fee will be cheaper. You can view our website www.atelieramyroke.com for more information!

Or please feel free to contact us by atelieramyroke@hotmail.com

Many thanks and look to hear from you soon. =)

 

Best regards, AAR

[bikermutt07]

7 hours ago, atelieramyroke said:

Hi guys,

 

This is Atelier Amy Roke. I found this post and saw that people are looking for Stahl heatable edge paint using by Hermes. 

We just got the sole distribution on this product and would like to provide service to you guys.

We have 200ml package in Black, Dark Brown, Grey, Red, Blue,Yellow and White. All color is mixable.

If you guys decided to purchase more than 5kg at once, the postage fee will be cheaper. You can view our website www.atelieramyroke.com for more information!

Or please feel free to contact us by atelieramyroke@hotmail.com

Many thanks and look to hear from you soon. =)

 

Best regards, AAR

The paint looks great. The page on your site has pictures over the text. So, we can't see prices.

[atelieramyroke]

On 2016/11/9 at 6:17 AM, bikermutt07 said:

The paint looks great. The page on your site has pictures over the text. So, we can't see prices.

Hi,

You need to use computer to view the website. =)