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Will try and see how it goes! I definitely need to have the roller for the rounded corner! :). You just helped me with another struggle. Thank you

Hello, It costs around 3000 RMB/447 USD including shipping, table, servo motor.

Couldn't belive what I just saw...you did an amazing job.. So much knowledge and patience goes into this project..I admire that!

Yes! that is right. Thank you for bringing it up. Will pack those things into my suitcase right now!

Hi Nope..I haven't decided yet, but the decision will be made in the next week. I am going to travel outside my city next week and meet some dealers in person. They will present the machines and then I could make a decision. I am quite cautious...

The King TK-801D leather skiving machine review I've tried both vegetable tanned leather and chrome tanned leather. The machine itself is very easy to use and split very well. The only problem is that, with vegetable tanned leather, it leaves some marks on the front; I may need to add another layer in between. Or if you guys have a better solution, please let me know. Thanks!

Not a problem. I don't know well enough to give a comprehensive review but will do a simple video to show how well the machine functions. :-) I also have an edge skiving machine and an electric creaser on the way. Will share some thoughts on those machines as well.

You are right! If I decide to get an alder 669, I won't add the computer feature. It is not necessary and also too delicate to have.

Good point! Thank you for the advice! Will take it into my consideration.

Hi Adam, Wonderful! Those are great to know! I have reached out to a couple different dealers. Here, 1.669 Eco with a China-made servo motor and LED light costs about 29000 RMB/4200 USD. 2.669 Eco with a pneumatic food lift + servo motor +LED costs about 31000RMB/4500 USD 3.669 Eco with a computer features plus all above is about 37000RMB/5300USD 4.669 GOLDLINE computer feature + auto system is about 43000 RMB/ 6200USD 669Goldline is certainly out of my options. If going for the alder 669, I am leaning toward 1st and 2nd options, which will allow me to save some to invest in the next machine. Right now, It is still a struggle for me to decide which machine I should go for. Personally, I consider myself to hold a high standard on the preciseness of the works. I have seen the stitches line alder 669 could do, even and beautiful, but maybe it only depends on who is using it. haha I will visit several sewing machines factories outside my city next week. If they allow me to try some of the machines, that will help me to make the final decision. Thank you for helping! and BTW, I had the chance to check out the works! You guys make beautiful projects.

Yes, I understand that. I have learnt to use a flat industrial sewing machine(not cylinder); learning is something I am excited about.

WOW, Thank you for the link! I had no idea Cowboy has their sell agent here. Will definitely look into it! Do you have any recommendation on the model? （Maybe 7335 and CB6900 from what I read ）

Hi Kgg, WOW，I’ve never thought of those! thank you for the advice! I will do some search today within my city. Yes, I definitely plan to visit the dealers, but the dealers spoke vaguely when I ask them for the address. Only one of them gave me a clear company address. Instead of visiting the dealers, should I just go to some leather sewing factories? Hi Adam, Great information to know! As long as the machine accept 8mm Veg tan leather in thickness, I think I will be good to go. Also, hand sewing is an option if the thickness goes above 8mm. But I am not sure if a Pfaff 335 could handle easily 8mm thick leather layers, the dealer is quite vague when I asked. I have another question for you.. haha sorry for too many questions. Do you have any idea what a pneumatic foot system is? (I don’t know if I translate it correctly) One of the Adler dealers told me that if I allow them to replace this system with something regular, the price for an Adler 669 could reduce about 10000RMB/1500USD, which is a significant drop. If you have information on this, that will be fantastic! Hi there, OH, YEeeeS! I am so excited about the Alder 669 review because there is nowhere else to find such review. Is it going to happen any time soon? Haha, maybe I should wait for your review instead of rushing to buy a machine. :))) I am also afraid to order something that ends up giving me a lot of headaches, especially considering that I have no experience on such machine. I have been saving for the past year. I am willing to be broken for this machine, but it is very important to know if it is really worth that much.

Hi there, Thank you for sharing the post! Yes, some of the bag designs do require a cylinder machine to do the job. Umm, I understood your point. It is too much to ask one machine to do all the jobs. I am also thinking to invest more machines in the future (when the affordability is not a problem.) But for now, I want to start with a machine that could be more flexible to work with. If purchasing two different machines, do you have any suggested model I should look into? Holly Hello Kgg, Thank you for answering, Yes, you made great points! In my country, Juki, Alder and Pfaff are the most common industrial sewing machine brands here, comparing to Cowboy/Seiko etc. Those three brands, they all have their sell agents/ branches here. (Juki is more popular and common than the other two. ) The basic accessories are not very expensive as long as they are not imported. Also, some models’ accessories are easier to find than the others. The warranty part is a problem…. I couldn’t find a dealer on my city .. Those dealers all told me that if the machine has any problems, they could provide tech support through video or phone call…or sending some parts to me to repair. If I am willing to pay for the cost of traveling, they can send someone to help me fix the machine….. So..basically, if the machines present a huge issue, I am on my own. :(( The downside of living in a small town. And yes I am also questioning if an Adler 669 is really worth to buy taking the fact that the price is 4 to 10 times more expensive than the others. I haven’t had the chance to use any of those machines, so it is so difficult to compare.

Hello Adam, Thank you for sharing the thoughts! Yes, I think we make similar items and I also read your post on the sewing machines :-)! The dealer said something similar. He suggested me to purchase a Pfaff 335 with another flat walking foot sewing machine instead of buying an Adler 669. That does sound super appealing and pulling me away from an Adler 669. Also, thank you for listing those points! They are very helpful. I think your 3rd and 7th points are very important to me. For Juki 246, the dealer told me that the machine works well with leather thickness under 5mm. Juki 1341 could take a little bit more on the thickness. Unfortunately, I don’t like its larger diameter arm :(. It adds some limitation on the designs. Do you know if Adler 669 work well with thick vegetable tanned leather? Holly

Hello everyone. First of all, English is not my native language. I apologize for any spelling and grammar mistakes on this post. : ) To give some background, I am from China, and currently planning to start my own studio selling leathergoods I design. I make mostly, leather bags/totes/wallets.... I also combine different materials with leather, such as heavy canvas. I use both vegetable tanned leather and chrome tanned leather. The thickness I work with is generally under 6mm. (mostly 4mm-2 layer of 4-5oz leather). Occasionally, I may go up to 8mm. Sewing by hands takes too much time, so I finally decide to invest on my first leather sewing machine! I have never used a cylinder-bed industrial sewing machine before, so this will be my first industrial sewing machine. I have asked several people. They all recommended Adler and Juki to me, so I had my eyes on Adler 669 and Juki 246/1341. I also have talked with some local dealer. The prices are: - Adler 669 Eco- Around 37000 RMB/5300 USD. - Japan made Juki 246/1341 around 17500 RMB/2500 USD - China made Juki 246/1341 around 4000 RMB/600USD - China made PFAFF 335 Around 10000RMB / 1500USD. (The dealer said Pfaff has their own factory in China, which is why the price is low. ) They all come as brand new machines. The prices are quite different... I am taking this leathercraft career very seriously. So if the machine is really really worth to buy. I could afford to purchase an Adler 669. (I was almost about to settle with this one after hearing and reading all the good things on the machine. ) However, the dealer told me that there is not much difference between a PAFFA 335 and Alder 669. The reason why Alder gets so much fame is due to the fact that a lot of luxury brands are using this type of machine. (I am a little bit skeptical on this.) If that is true, I definitely will go for a Paffa 335 instead. You guys are more knowledgeable than me. I really need some honest opinions on deciding the machine. (For example, Macbook is a lot more expensive than other computers, but after I use it, I don't ever want to switch to another laptop. I don't know if the differences in the sewing machine world could be that significant though.) Thank you for reading!

Have anybody tried to order buttero leather from Conceria Walpier and succeeded? I got their agent's email address.. but nobody ever replied my mail for some reasons.... I don't know if you guys had successfully ordered any buttero leather before. Please let me know how to do it... really appreciate it..

Hi yigi, I was searching for the Stahl paint for a long time. I am living in Japan.. .I don't know if I could still order from you?if so, do you know how much the shipping cost would be probably...cuz it is international shipping.

Hi， Please let me know when you are going to sell them. very interested in buying some. I am living in Rochester NY. I am dying to get some shell cordovan from Horween. I have contacted them couple times with no respond.