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  1. I have dug through old posts concerning bell skivers. The information is quite helpful, but with so many brands, I would like your expert opinions. As there is not a dealer within 800 miles, I will have to have it shipped. Which also makes phone/internet support very important. For that reason alone, I have removed overseas brands/shipping from my list. I also started with dealers which are on this site or were recommended in other posts, thinking they will be more leather oriented than perhaps other sewing machine dealers. Here is a list with basic info I found. Any and all details you have including, prices/value, shipping, support, setup, additions, deletions, accessories and dealers is greatly appreciated. As to use, it will be mostly chrome tanned or light (less than 6 oz) veg tanned leathers. It won't be running all day long, just occasionally. From what I gather, they are all similar (perhaps the FAV may be a different class), but you may know more. Have I missed something that should really be considered? https://store.keysew.com/catalog/product/b12c0c9db24c4a26b7d9513b9e58b80c Consew DCS 53 $1345 free shipping https://goldstartool.com/consew-dcs-s4-skiving-machine-w-table-and-servo-motor.html Consew DCS S4 $1149 ~$1 shipping https://www.leathermachineco.com/product/cobra-np-4-skiving-machine/ Cobra NP4 $1400 ~$300 shipping https://www.springfieldleather.com/Bell-Knife-Skiver Cobra NP4 $1400 ?? shipping (waiting on quote) http://www.techsew.com/machinery/cutting-skiving-machines/techsew-sk-4-leather-skiving-machine.html Techsew SK-4 $1295 ~$300 shipping http://industrialsewingmachineman.com/machines/mach.asp?dir=leathercutting&brand=Techsew&Model=SK-4+Leather+Skiving&ProductType=Leather+cutting++Machines Techsew SK-4 $1249 ~$7 shipping http://artisansew.com/leathercuttingmachinesandclickers.html Artisan NP-4 H NS $1350 ?? shipping https://campbell-randall.com/product/models-fav-av1-av2 FAV AV2TE $3900 (or maybe it was $2900 must double check) ~$500 shipping Either way double or better in cost, is it double the quality? http://www.solar-leather.com/cb801-bottom-feed-bell-knife-skiver Cowboy CB-801 $1295 [This one then turned odd. Sent request for shipping amount. This was part of reply: "The CB-801 will not skive chrome tan or vegtan leather, unfortunately. It is for finer leather like upholstery grade. At this time we do no carry a motorized skiver that will skive these leathers..." Made me go huh? Did check out Toledo Sewing, but didn't see a skiver on the site. Bob had helped me in the past and wanted to return the favor. Need to call? I know this isn't exhaustive, but it is exhausting. Spending money is nerve wracking. Thanks for your time. Kat
  2. The King TK-801D leather skiving machine review I've tried both vegetable tanned leather and chrome tanned leather. The machine itself is very easy to use and split very well. The only problem is that, with vegetable tanned leather, it leaves some marks on the front; I may need to add another layer in between. Or if you guys have a better solution, please let me know. Thanks!
  3. pmalyszek

    Cobra Class 14 Leather Splitter

    I have a barely used Leather machine Cobra class 14 leather splitter for sale. I dont really use it anymore and its just taking up space in the shop. New, out the door with shipping is around $2500 usd. Selling it for $1900 usd.
  4. As promised here are some photos of the Ellegi/Atom GL12 skiving machine I bought and the start of the modifications I want to make. The machine was owned by an older couple closing their shoe making shop and was in great condition. The model I bought has two motors: 1 for the vacuum and 1 clutch motor that runs the blade and feed wheel. The feeding speed was much too fast for my use. As I only paid about 200 euro for it I decided I would try to make the feed wheel independent of the blade. I also wanted to be able to finely control the feed speed, for example being able to very slowly feed the leather in and then gradually increase the speed as I skive. I researched every way possible to add a third motor for the feed wheel. There are three ways you can do this (that I can think of): 1. a direct drive servo directly behind the feed wheel as found in some new machines; 2. a motor underneath the feed pulley on the right of the machine; and 3, a motor on the top of the table behind the feed pulley, again on the right of the machine. Option 1 is far beyond most people's abilities, at lest mine! I tried very hard to make option 2 work but could not. My table has upper cross supports, a lower belt guard and a middle sheet metal "wall" between the operator and clutch motor. The only way I might have made this work was to replace the clutch motor with a small servo. I am too cheap to do this! The clutch motor works great so I want to use that for the blade as long as I can. That left me with option number 3 which is what I went with. I found a new Jake JK-513A servo motor for about $105 from a dealer 5 minutes from where I live. This was cheaper and easier than buying a DC or servo motor, the power supplies, controller etc. It is 550W which is much more power than I need, but the price was right. I recommend a motor where the motor, foot controller and power supply are separate. Without that I could not have done this. My table has so many under supports that I need this flexibility. I removed the belt from the main shaft that goes to the feed pulley. I then mount this motor directly behind it on the table top. It took a little bit of playing with the placement of the motor, the foot controller and power supply and it works! Not elegant, but it is doing what I want The feed is now controlled by the foot pedal and servo speed controller and the blade runs continuously. I have used a machine that had a separate clutch for the feed wheel. This offers even better control than that in my very limited experience! If you have space under your table that would be a better option. Here is someone on Instagram who has done this: Here are some photos. I will post some more when I get a chance. I need to cut a slot in the machine belt cover, mount the belt cover on the motor and buy a few parts for the machine. Hope this helps! -Adam
  5. GeorgiaK

    FAV skiving machine

    I found this Fratelli Alberti skiving machine that comes without motor and table at a very low price. Do you it's worth getting it?
  6. GeorgiaK

    Pedersen skiving machine

    I've recently discovered an ad selling a Pedersen skiving machine at a good price. I'm not familiar with this brand. Could anyone give me information on the machine?
  7. I've decided to invest in a skiving machine. I'd love to know how to pick one, what features to look for, what makers are better in terms of durability and ease of maintenance, and finally where to buy one. I primarily work on handbags, wallets and smaller accessories, generally with soft and medium tempered leather usually up to 5-6oz (2-2.4mm). I want to use the skiver for both edges and splitting leather for lining. I understand that a band splitter would be better for actual splitting, but it seems skiving machine would be more flexible and financially more attainable. I'm in the states. My budget is around $1500-2500, though I'm somewhat flexible. I've done some research already, thanks to a lot of posts on this forum. So far it seems I should be looking at bottom feed machines where bell knife has a constant speed and presser foot controllers the feeder roller. And one that has vacuum suction. What other features would be useful for me? Which machines have these functions? I would appreciate any help in picking one. It's a fairly large investment for me and I want to do it right.
  8. Hi. I just purchased a consew dcs s4. The store said it was new...charged me 1095 for it. I drove three hours to pick up from sewing machine.com in Atlanta ga. So I noticed that the table it was on wasn’t new and it was a singer table. Had a worn look to it but I dont care about the table. When I got home I didn’t have time to do anything. The next day my husband and I decide to give it a look over and see how to use it. Long story short...I know it’s a learning phase for this machine..but the leather doesn’t move smoothly at all and kept bunching. I decided to look under the machine. I saw a small chip on the cutting side of the blade..further inspection I found two more! So I’m thinking there is no way this is a new machine and I don’t think sharpening the blade will fix these nicks. So I would have to buy another blade then drive three hours one way to have the same company put a new blade in a machine I have had for 3 days! Will sharpening take the nicks out? Am I overreacting to want to return the machine? I was financing it with 12 months no interest....
  9. Hello all, Has anyone had any luck attaching a shop vac system to the scrap chute on a regular skiving machine? It seems like it could have enough suction to make a difference and limit scraps wrapping around the feed wheel. I'm thinking of rigging something up but wanted to see if anyone had any experience doing something similar. I figure the shop vac hose could connect to a reducer like in the pic below and then find some piece of ducting that could fit relatively snug with the chute below the table. Here's the machine I'm using.
  10. Does anyone in Europe know where I can buy a large (40-55mm) roller foot for my bottom feed skiving machine? I have an Italian Atom. Perphaps someone has an extra they would sell me I would love to find a good used one. I know about Mando in France and Fratelli Alberti in Italy. I am still waiting to hear back from Atom in the UK. The original Italian one (855C) is much more money than I want to pay. Worse case I will order one from China and modify it... On a side note...has anyone used the teflon 50mm foot? How does it compare to a roller foot? Thanks! -Adam
  11. Couldn't resist buying this 'boat anchor' for the price of a piece of leather. Made probably in the 50's in former East Germany - Textima was an old brand of machinery, related to CLAES brand, part of VEB Textima Co. LW users helping with this project directly or indirectly: - @Constabulary - who did most of the work: all the mechanical restoration. @RockyAussie and @Trox - very helpful tips along the way. Also @CampbellRandall (Dan) - very helpful videos regarding skiving. Thanks a lot!! The machine was badly rusted as you can see in the pictures (in the left is an original photo from the ad, before restoration). Couldn't find any documentation, didn't know if it's complete, if we can find parts for it, or if this thing will work again. But definitely looked very robust and seemed it was worth restoring. It is a bit different from other modern skivers: all the active parts (bell knife, feed wheel, sharpening wheel) are moving together with a ratio established by the gears (feed wheel moves slower). They all start/stop moving when the clutch is engaged/disengaged by the pedal. Machine is ALL gear driven (no belts inside) and the original clutch was on the outside. Found out: the old, heavy, wide-belt external clutch needed to be replaced with an external clutch motor. Only one part was missing: the feed wheel drive-rod (and a cover). We ordered the missing rod but realized it was too short, so Constabulary adjusted this by cutting, gluing and pinning on a tube (photo). Machine needed to be stripped to the last screw, every single bit was taking care of. That included: electrolysis bath to break some parts loose, de-rusting, hammering some parts out, heating them with a torch etc. Many components were all gummed up. Original paint was very thick, pretty difficult to remove. Following was the painting and partial assembly, greasing, shipping.
  12. E L

    Old Fortuna Skiving Machine

    Hi there. Thanks to the folks who helped me with when I posted a couple of years ago about getting my machine up and running. Alas, I never put the time and resources in to it so I am selling. I am parting with my old Fortuna Skiving Machine. It runs, but would probably need someone who knew what they were doing to get it up and working properly. I had a sewing machine repair person come by and service it. At the time, he said it needed new belting. I bought leather belting for it but never bothered to get him to come back, because I wanted to find someone who serviced skiving machines in particular. Anyway, it does not have an aspirator, but it is in good condition from what I can tell and includes a couple of extra presser feet. I am not an expert on this machine as I only really used one when I was in school and there was a tech on hand in the labs in case anything went awry. I had aspirations of having it up and running and making all sorts of things, but alas they have remained aspirations. My loss is your gain! I got a few PM's on top of replies to my old post in regards to suggestions on pricing. I have landed on asking $750 obo AS IS, local pick up only (I'm in New York City) and payment cash, Venmo or PayPal ONLY. Here is the link to the folder with pictures: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0ByX2cUowucQxWG1mbWd1dnZYSkE?usp=sharing. Please only serious buyers.
  13. Mchello19

    Feed Roller Wobble

    Hello! I just acquired an old skiver and noticed that the feed roller has a slight wobble as its rotating. I took it apart to find that the roller driving shaft seems to be a bit worn down (it's no longer circular). Could the reason be for the wobble? I've attached some pictures. Any advice would be MUCH appreciated. Thanks, Michelle
  14. SonderingSusan

    Skiving Machine ripping my leather

    Hi Everyone, I was wondering if anyone would have some feedback for me in relation to my skiving machine. I am struggling to lear to use it and twice today as i skiff along the edge of work the machine has ripped the good side of the leather. What could be wrong here? All/ any help with this would be greatly appreciated. I looked it up online and can't find and info about skivers really at all. Thanks all !
  15. Hello all, I need some advice. I bought a old Fortuna Skiving machine over a year ago which I haven't really used. I'm a newbie, who learned how to skive leather in school, but I never really learned maintenance of the machine, or repairs. When I bought it I asked around the fabric district in NYC for repairers who could service the machine. A gentleman that normally works on Sewing Machines came in and tried to service the machine for me. The machine can run, but is inconsistent in the thickness it shaves off and often "eats up" the leather. It was at the time missing one of the belts on the inside of the machine. I have postponed calling him again, as I would prefer someone who is more familiar with skiving machines to come back. I am wondering considering that I am a casual user/newbie anyone's thoughts on - 1) if they know of any good skiving machine servicers in the NYC area, and 2) perhaps it's better for me to try to sell the machine on eBay or this forum considering that I sew leather somewhat infrequently? I say this, because from what I read on these forums, part replacement on old Fortuna machines sound costly! I have attached a couple of photos of the machine. Thank you!
  16. Hi All, Today I received a reconditioned Fortuna skiving machine having waited impatiently for a month for it to arrive. I'd asked for a V50 S or equivalent machine, but I'm not exactly sure what it is that I've received. I was expecting a bottom feed machine, with continuous drive motor for the bell knife and a separate clutch motor for the feed wheel, as I thought this was standard with the V50 S. On the machine that I've received, the bell knife and feed are both driven together, which really limits it's effectiveness. Is it possible to simply install a separate motor to isolate the knife from the feed stone? My knowledge of machines and motors is pretty pathetic so I'm trying to consume as much info as possible from the internet at the moment, I'd really appreciate any advice! Photos attached. Cheers Edd
  17. naomij

    Leather Skiving

    Hi all, Sorry if this is being posted in the wrong location, but wasn't too sure where to put it. I was wondering if anyone knows of anyone who would offer machine skiving, for small amounts of leather (which is why I can't justify buying a skiving machine myself at the moment) in the UK, West Sussex? Thank you!
  18. I'm learning leather work and am interested to buy a skiving machine. I've looked at many online- Chinese, Italian, etc. What is the difference between bottom feed vs. top and bottom feed? I'm doing mostly bags and belts but want a machine that can grow with my skill set and interests. Does a heavy duty machine do lightweight to mid-weight material as well as a medium duty machine? Heavy duty machines seem to cost more. Do I pony up for a heavy duty machine so that I have that range in the future even though I don't need it now? What would you all buy? Is there a big difference between a Consew, Econosew or Cobra at $1,200 or thereabouts and a new Fortuna SM-50 or FAV AV2 for 4-5k? I'm interested to get a good machine and am willing to pay the price but wonder if it is necessary. What would you all buy?