Singer 29D 60 ... No Typo

[alexitbe]

Sorry this will be a quick one as have just checked in before I go to bed.

Wizcraft: Thanks for the really detailed information about that model. I guess I can only hope that this 29D60 is something similar.

Constabulary: Thanks for the picture, I am now able to follow what you said.

Glenn: I will go and view the machine on Friay, so I won't bother with asking for more pics. If I see it sewing, then I will take it. If not, then I shall leave it.

Cheers

alex

[alexitbe]

Just a quick update: I bought it.

I have just brought it home tonight via the train. Hae given it a quick spray with Wd40, before doing a real clean in the next few days. I also have something much better, which I have just recieved from our good friend Constab.

I don't know why Wizcraft suggested that particular model but I think he is correct. It is the large bobbin and from my Singer 29k71,72,73 service manual the bobbin and shuttle is the same as the 72 and not the other two. The bobbin is threaded differently to the other two also.. Very good guess.

Another thing, thanks to Constab, I checked the stitch length and was a little surprised. In contrast to his it decreases as you go up and it starts at 4.5 and finishes at 2. The stitches follow this too, mybe not in absolute size but in icnreasing and decreasing.

So I think this machine is a quite light weight patcher, mainly from the maximum short stitch length.

I will place pictures up over the next few days. I will slowly clean it properly, but in a peace-meal fashion.

It came with really old looking needles by lammertz. The 88L system size 3 and 6. I don't know what any of that means yet. I will post a picture of the paper packet they came in as it is terribly old fashioned. Almost Edwardian...

Cheers

Alex

[Wizcrafts]

Once you clean and lube it, then replace any badly worn parts, you are going to love the machine. Just remember that it is a patcher, not a production machine and not a holster machine either.

The correct needle systems are 29x4 or 135x16. The original design of the 29x4 is no longer made. Now, everybody has switched to 135x16 needles. Also, don't break it by using thick thread. Stay with T90 or T70. Needle sizes 100, 110 and 120 and 125 should handle those thread sizes just fine.

[alexitbe]

A quick upate:

Well I have it roughly cleaned an lubricated. I have tightened a few things here and there.

I am currently testing it on cloth, but am using the leather needles that came with it. Will this be a problem?

Initially, the lower thread was being pulled through the material very convincingly.

After testing the thension of the thread and the bobbin, with the foot down( That took a while ), I realised the bobbin tenstion was too low. I sorted the bobbin tension out an it is quite strong now and is as strong than the top.

However, It does not sew as expected. For the first 4-6 stitches the tension is fine, but then slowly the lower thread begins to be pulled through. This has happened on every single attempt. The stitch length is set to its longest setting and is about 3.5-4 mm

I wanted to have everything near the middle of its settings, as it is very old an has probably been messed around with peopl who don't know anything. ie by people like me

So, I have adjusted the take-up lever. There is one whole thread showing before the locking nut. It seems to be where other people on youtube have it. I have currently set it to 0 or 1 for light work. The thread remains taut until the needle enters the fabric and then it is slack again. I notice that the tension between the take-up lever an the tension regulator can become very stiff after a few stitches. I guess this is why it pulls the bottom thread through? I do not know why this would happen.

I don't really want to disassemble it just yet, until it is working satisfactorily. Do you think I should do it in anycase?

Thaks for any advice.

Alex

[cdthayer]

Alex, it sounds to me like the tension screw in your shuttle is backing off on its own as you sew. I have one like that for my 1943 Singer 29K70. The screw won’t stay where I set it. I switched to a different shuttle until I can figure something out on it.

It’s not a split screw that can be spread with a narrow knife blade like some shuttles and bobbin cases have, so I’m trying to figure out some other way to increase drag on the screw.

CD in Oklahoma

[Constabulary]

@ CD

I know there is not much thread but maybe a bit of loctite

[cdthayer]

I’ve wondered about using Loctite on it. I haven’t used the stuff much, but I understand that one color hardens and another color is supposed to stay softer. I think I’ll dig through my parts bins for a replacement screw before I use any gunk in it. The hook on it is still in fair shape, so I’d like to get some more use out of it if I can. I generally only use one size of thread in this machine, so even if the “soft” stuff seizes the screw in place over time, I could probably still use the shuttle. I just wouldn’t be able to remove the spring to clean under it or replace it.

But for Alex, he might only have the one shuttle to work with, so he’d probably like to hear from someone that has had success with it. That is, if he discovers that his tension screw is backing off like mine is. When I start a sewing line the stitch looks good, and then slowly I can see the lower thread begin appearing more and more until the top thread is a straight line and the bottom thread becomes loops. When I remove the shuttle, the tension screw is loose.

CD in Oklahoma

[Constabulary]

You of course have to be careful with this stuff and it is for sure not the best idea I ever had but it is at least an idea. And I agree - replacing the screw will probably do the job!

[cdthayer]

I've got to find the right screw first.....

Thanks for your idea. It may be the way I have to go on this.

CD in Oklahoma

[Darren Brosowski]

I believe that you will find that the serial number was issued by Kilbowie as they cast the body and made the parts but the D represents the factory that assembled it.

Does anyone know anything about this patcher? I have just found one in working order, very cheap and wondere'd why the "D"?

I am in Germany (Deutschland), if that is relevent.

Here's a picture...

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