Members Dwight Posted March 21, 2015 Members Report Posted March 21, 2015 (edited) I've used Resolene for however many years, . . . have never had a problem like that. Here is my process: 1. Cut the resolene 50/50 with water, . . . stir it well, . . . keep it in an air-tight container. 2. I use a cheap, 1 inch bristle brush from Harbor Freight, . . . and while I do not put it on "sparingly", . . . I don't "slop it on" either. Maybe kinda like painting with water colors??? 3. I have enough of it to brush it around, . . . and create a bit of bubbles, . . . sort of like a froth, . . . just not too much. 4. I then brush it back and forth, up, down, left, right, etc, . . . till the bubbles disappear. 5. I hang it in a warm spot to dry, . . . and I'll go in and mess with it in sometimes a couple of hours, . . . sometimes it takes a bit longer, . . . depending on weather and humidity. I always flex it back and forth within 6 to 8 hours, . . . found out that will prevent any cracking. Hate it when that happens. 6. FWIW, . . . I did have a belt crack badly on me one time, . . . and I did a little "experiment" so to speak. I took an old piece of a tee shirt, . . . got it wet in acetone, . . . and rubbed the whole belt like I was buffing the black after dyeing it. It took some of the resolene finish off, . . . and I was able to re-coat it and save it. I think part of the success might have been that I got to it before it got fully cured, . . . but at least in that one instance it did allow me to salvage an otherwise candidate for the round file. Have not tried it since. It does not leave a Fashion 500 finish, . . . but it is a good finish, . . . sometimes there are some little streaks, . . . but they are indentations in the finish, . . . not color changes like the OP had up there. BUT, . . . resolene DOES darken every thing you put it on, . . . except black. It is a predictable darkening after you've worked with it a while, . . . but it is not a neutral finish, . . . it WILL darken the piece you put it on. I've tried a bunch of others, . . . keep coming back, . . . have never had a customer give me the business over the finish. May God bless, Dwight Edited March 21, 2015 by Dwight Quote If you can breathe, . . . thank God. If you can read, . . . thank a teacher. If you are reading this in English, . . . thank a veteran. www.dwightsgunleather.com
Members thefanninator Posted March 21, 2015 Members Report Posted March 21, 2015 I'd just throw away the Eco-Flo. Buy Fiebing dyes and then Tan Kote. Quote http://www.instagram.com/fannintexas/
Members BDAZ Posted March 22, 2015 Members Report Posted March 22, 2015 I'd just throw away the Eco-Flo. Buy Fiebing dyes and then Tan Kote. Any oil or alcohol dye works well. I use a $14 detail spray gun from Harbor Freight and put on a moderate coat. Enough so there is some pooling in the depressions, but the Reso dries clear and totally protects any coring or overlay paint I may use. I would NEVER use it with any water based "Eco" dyes. For that you need a solvent based sealer. Cya! Bob Quote
Members venator Posted March 22, 2015 Author Members Report Posted March 22, 2015 Any oil or alcohol dye works well. I use a $14 detail spray gun from Harbor Freight and put on a moderate coat. Enough so there is some pooling in the depressions, but the Reso dries clear and totally protects any coring or overlay paint I may use. I would NEVER use it with any water based "Eco" dyes. For that you need a solvent based sealer. Cya! Bob What's an example of a solvent based sealer? Quote
Members BDAZ Posted March 22, 2015 Members Report Posted March 22, 2015 http://www.mohawk-finishing.com/catalog_browse.asp?ictNbr=431 Just an example. Typically anything is a spray can will be solvent based. Cya! Bob Quote
Northmount Posted March 22, 2015 Report Posted March 22, 2015 Water is the universal solvent. So describing a finish as solvent based does not say what the solvent is. A lacquer type finish uses acetone or similar petrochemical solvents. A water based finish uses water as the solvent. Most petrochemical solvents will soften or dissolve many water based dyes and finishes. Before applying a finish, water based or petrochemical based solvents, make sure the dye has properly dried and buff the surface until no more pigment lifts off. Then apply your finish. Avoid too much scrubbing action, or you may lift some dye back to the surface and spread it around. Water based finish on water based dyes don't usually lift too easily. But lacquer types will lift water based dyes quite easily. So air brushing light coats rather than a scrubbing action is less likely to get you into trouble. Air brushing or sheep skin applicators or brushes work. They all take some practice to work out the best method for your type of work. So do some experimentation, develop what works for you, then stick with it. Tom Quote
Members BDAZ Posted March 22, 2015 Members Report Posted March 22, 2015 Water is the universal solvent. Right!? Try dissolving plastic in water..ain't nothing universal about water as a solvent. I am in the soy solvent business and hold patents in solvents. Nomencature in many fields INCLUDING leather differentiate between water based and solvent based products, solvent referring to a high VOC solvent like alcohols, Acetone or various other solvents. Most petrochemical solvents will soften or dissolve many water based dyes and finishes. The reason this MAY occur is that there is often water in the solvent. it may be 10% or less but it will have an effect. Please do your homework before hitting the submit button. Cya! Bob Quote
Members silverwingit Posted March 22, 2015 Members Report Posted March 22, 2015 I don't want to seem argumentative but any high school chemistry student learns that water is indeed the universal solvent. Michelle Quote
Northmount Posted March 22, 2015 Report Posted March 22, 2015 Water is the universal solvent. Right!? Try dissolving plastic in water..ain't nothing universal about water as a solvent. I am in the soy solvent business and hold patents in solvents. Nomencature in many fields INCLUDING leather differentiate between water based and solvent based products, solvent referring to a high VOC solvent like alcohols, Acetone or various other solvents. Most petrochemical solvents will soften or dissolve many water based dyes and finishes. The reason this MAY occur is that there is often water in the solvent. it may be 10% or less but it will have an effect. Please do your homework before hitting the submit button. Cya! Bob The point I was making is that water is a solvent, so a solvent based finish doesn't tell much about the type of finish. For your edification here are a couple links you can look up. https://water.usgs.gov/edu/solvent.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_solvent You could do a Google search and find many more if you are so inclined. Our purpose here is to help members and visitors learn and develop their craft and abilities. Think about it, then review your comment. I think we all know that there is no universal solvent that will dissolve all types of materials. If there was, what container would you keep it in? From my limited experience, acetone doesn't contain water, but will still lift water based dyes. Tom Quote
Members theclarkkids Posted July 12, 2018 Members Report Posted July 12, 2018 do you have to use resolene on a dyed leather product? if i was dying something black do i have to seal it? or can you just leave with the black and touch up now and then? Quote
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