shoepatcher Report post Posted February 3, 2015 I wanted to let all the readers on the Forum in on a machine that I recently got from Singermania in Australia. I began to purchase this machine from Steve in April, 2014. I bought it on time and finished paying for it in October. He crated it up and I had it shipped to New York via Ocean Freighter. From there by freight truck to Detroit and then delivered to my place of employment 10 days. It was not cheap to get it here. Why would I spend money on this particular shoe patcher you might ask? Very simply, this is a monster compared to any shoe patcher of today. The arm length is 19.5". The shuttle is 3 times larger than a big bobbin Singer or Adler and at least 2.5 times bigger than a #30 large bobbin Claes. The lift on the foot is just under 1". The machine has to be gone over. Neither Steve nor I know who built it at this point. We don't even know what needle system it takes. One of the cast iron supports got broken in shipment so I have to get that fixed. In essence, it is a cross between a saddle machine and a shoepatcher. Steve sent me info on another one of these machines that is in a display at a castle in France. Other that, we only know about the two machines. I will be starting to restore it probably late this fall. I will get pics of the bobbins, shuttle , stand and head posted on this site soon. I am looking for any info that anyone might have on this beast, i.e manufacturer, manual, etc. It looks a lot like the early shoe patchers like Claes& Fenje, Bradbury, patent Elastic, etc. Finally, I have begun to compile a list of the different shoe patcher machines that were built. If you have any pictures of little know ones, please post the pics. It will be fun to see how many companies made this type of machine over the last 150 plus years. glenn Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Constabulary Report post Posted February 3, 2015 Holy Cow - that sounds interesting - can you post some pictures please? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shoepatcher Report post Posted February 3, 2015 I will begin to post pictures soon. glenn Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gordond Report post Posted February 4, 2015 Hi Glenn I went to reply to your message and it said that I was banned from the conversation. .?? whatsup?.. confused... have I been hacked? machine pictures in my gallery page to answer your question Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
biglew Report post Posted February 4, 2015 so i think i live close to you...can I come look at your machine?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shoepatcher Report post Posted February 5, 2015 Here is the start of the list of shoe patcher manufacturers and models Adler 30-1, 30-5,30-7, 30-15, 30-10, 30-50, 30-70 plus the early Kochs Adler Durkopp 17 class, 18 class Singer U.F. A, 29-1 thru 29-5, 29k1-33, 53-56, 57, 58, 60, 62, 29K 70, 71-73, 29U71, 29U171A-173A, 29KSV6, 29KSV19, 29D60 Dandy Champion- yes, they made one Consew 29, 29B, 29L, 29BL Bradbury A-1 Repairer Claes # 8346/10 # 8346/20 #8346/30 Pfaff Metro Spezial 8346/10 and 20 and 30, 9346/10 and 20 and 30 Colibri Politype Patent Elastic Anchor name any more you can think of. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wizcrafts Report post Posted February 5, 2015 I sure could use an Adler 30-70 right now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Constabulary Report post Posted February 5, 2015 (edited) Singer 29D, 29D51, 29D56, 29D62, 29DSV205, 29K51 Source: http://home.arcor.de/veritasklub/naehmaschinenwerk_produktionsprofil/seite01_singer.htm Edited February 5, 2015 by Constabulary Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Evo160K Report post Posted February 5, 2015 Claes # 8345/20 # 8345/30 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gordond Report post Posted February 6, 2015 C.S. Jones [this one is missing the shuttle and a Singer 29 is too big to fit..any ideas what shuttle might be suitable ?] Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
machinehead Report post Posted February 6, 2015 Gordond, The Jones company had a rivalry with the Bradbury firm, and your machine just might use a Bradbury A-1 shuttle which is smaller than a Singer. The Bradbury shuttles have a tendancy to develop hairline cracks so a close inspection is warranted. Adding to the list of shoe patchers: the Bradbury Type 2 Elastic which has a larger shuttle than the A-1 Repairer and only revolved through a half circle instead of 360 degrees. It was designed for boots. Another patcher is the " We Cheer" probably manufactured in Providence Rhode Island. It looks a lot like a Singer if my memory serves me and may have utilized a patent involving the shuttle, rack, and or the gears. Have to edit the previous post. The machine's actual name is the " What Cheer". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Constabulary Report post Posted February 6, 2015 (edited) Found a WETTINA cobbler machine on Ebay Germany - never heard of it before. Another COLIBRI type as it seems. http://www.ebay.de/itm/schoene-antike-Schuhmachernaehmaschine-Wettina-Schuhmacher-Naehmaschine-Schuster-/111592111508?ssPageName=ADME:SS:SS:DE:3160 @shoepatcher what is this "Shoepatcher on Steroids" - can you post some pictures? Edited February 6, 2015 by Constabulary Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Evo160K Report post Posted February 6, 2015 These images are from Shoepatcher, they show his recently acquired "shoepatcher on steroids" bobbin along side normal large bobbins. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Constabulary Report post Posted February 7, 2015 would like to see the machine it self.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gordond Report post Posted February 7, 2015 Glenn asked for me to post some photos of my restored Patent Elastic Machine. machinehead : thanks..... yes - I think one of the Bradbury machines shuttles would fit this Jones Patcher..but again a rare item itself. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Constabulary Report post Posted February 7, 2015 but thats not the "Patcher on Steroids" or is it? Maybe I got something wrong... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shoepatcher Report post Posted February 7, 2015 Constabulary, GordonD shoepatcher is a patent elastic model. He did a superb job of restoring it. Looks like museum quality. I hope mine looks like that when it is done. My machine is built in the same style as that one only bigger. I have pics of the head and stand but have been unable to up load them yet. It is old and rusty but I will begin taking more pics of it later this weekend and hope to post early next week. glenn Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Constabulary Report post Posted February 7, 2015 okay - sorry - don´t wanted to push you - I just wondered what it is... Looking forward to some pictures Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Evo160K Report post Posted February 9, 2015 (edited) Here are some pictures of Glenn's recently acquired "Shoepatcher On Steroids. Note the crate and the machine were damaged slightly. If anyone knows the name or the manufacturer of this machine or can supply any information about it, would you please post it? Thank you. Edited February 9, 2015 by Evo160K Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
machinehead Report post Posted February 9, 2015 Google Hugo Hengstenberg of Bielefeld and maybe you will be on the right path to discovering the origin of this fine old machine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Constabulary Report post Posted February 13, 2015 name any more you can think of. There also is the Phoenix Class 130 - it is an Adler 30-15 Id´say. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shoepatcher Report post Posted February 13, 2015 Constabulary, Thanks. I will add it to the list. Any manuals on this machine? glenn Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Constabulary Report post Posted February 13, 2015 (edited) No manual - sorry. I just remembered that Phoenix had a patcher too. I never have seen one in person. BTW - are you collecting patcher machines? Edited February 13, 2015 by Constabulary Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Constabulary Report post Posted February 15, 2015 Found another CLAES but I´m not sure if it isn´t the same as one of the earlier mentioned ones: CLAES 200-1 http://www.ebay.de/itm/ALTE-CLAES-SCHUSTERNAHMASCHINE-SCHUMACHER-SATTLER-NAHMASCHINE-FREIARM-/351309505646?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_77&hash=item51cbada46e This one will go for a bargain I think. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Constabulary Report post Posted February 22, 2015 (edited) One more - a Pfaff 230-1 http://www.ebay.de/itm/281604332681 Its the same as the Adler 30-1 I would amuse that Pfaff bought these patcher from Kochs-Adler Too bad - it is not close to me, seems it comes with a nice buch of extras. ___________________________________________________________________________ EDIT: And the parade goes one... A patcher named with Martin Decker, Mannheim http://www.ebay.de/itm/271768579732 never heard of this before _____________________________________________________________________________ And if someone is interested an a very rare Adler Class 30 accessory - check this out: http://www.ebay.de/itm/131428100219 I never have seen a binder attachment for a patcher before (I knew they exist but never have seen one) Edited February 22, 2015 by Constabulary Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
