Techsew 2700 Vs Consew 206Rb-5?

[CowboyBob]

Overseas shipping is approx.$650.00

[Constabulary]

Well, most of the new industrial machines nowadays come from China and are not made in the US, Europe or Japan. Even the "old name" brands like Adler or Pfaff (just to name a few) come from China nowadays. Most Chinese made machines are very similar they just have different brand name tags or sticker. But thats not unusual nowadays.

[Gregg From Keystone Sewing]

Well, most of the new industrial machines nowadays come from China and are not made in the US, Europe or Japan. Even the "old name" brands like Adler or Pfaff (just to name a few) come from China nowadays. Most Chinese made machines are very similar they just have different brand name tags or sticker. But thats not unusual nowadays.

Fixed!

Well, most of the new just about anything nowadays come from China and are not made in the US, Europe or Japan. Even the "old name" brands like Toyota or Sony (just to name a few) come from China nowadays. Most Chinese made products are very similar they just have different brand name tags or sticker. But that's not unusual nowadays.

[Constabulary]

Thanks and don´t forget about the freakin APPLE stuff

[Northman]

I have contacted most of the swedish sewing machine companies about if they could take home a Techsew 5100‏ for me. All but one replied that they dont deal with industrial sewing machines.
One replied that they could sell me a Juki TSC-441 for 111 250 SEK, or 12976,33 USD.
I just wanted to share with you how it is in Sweden..=)

[Gregg From Keystone Sewing]

Thanks and don´t forget about the freakin APPLE stuff

Apple products? Yeah, China. They have brought back a few token American made products, but they afford to mfg. here for sure and make a massive profit.

They just decide not to.

[Constabulary]

I have contacted most of the swedish sewing machine companies about if they could take home a Techsew 5100‏ for me. All but one replied that they dont deal with industrial sewing machines.

One replied that they could sell me a Juki TSC-441 for 111 250 SEK, or 12976,33 USD.

I just wanted to share with you how it is in Sweden..=)

12976,33 USD for a JUKI TSC-441?

Just the head or complete with table and motor? Sounds like a good deal but I guess for the price it is a used machine, right? Anyway - still a good deal I´d say.

EDIT:

wait - seems I got the price wrong - sorry!

Now thats price really HURTS!!!!

Edited July 23, 2015 by Constabulary

[Northman]

I have done some reading and found that Sieck 411 is the same machine as the cowboy 4500.
Sieck has on their homepage a Sieck TSC 411, I am guessing that TSC stands for some kind of "additional equipment".
So the question is if that machine is a "good" machine and if it is appropriate fore the things i want to do?

Edit:

It seems like the Sieck TSC 411 is a clone of some other machine.
and the one with a servo motor would cost 2500 euro plus 19% = 2975 euro.
Is this a fair price for a clone of some machine i don´t know?

Edited July 25, 2015 by Northman

[Constabulary]

TSC 441 is the original nomenclature from JUKI. TSC has nothing to do with additional equipment.

Did you get my PM message?

[Art]

Well maybe so, but the TSH-411 moniker was by used by Juki on a machine that had the same frame as the TSC-441 but was drop feed only. I suspect you were referring to the 441, which may very well be "the same as" a Cowboy 4500, but then may very well not be. Cowboy uses different feet most probably (Cowboy makes their own feet) and is made in a good factory, not as sure about the Sieck, although I have heard good things about them. As with all "House" brands, they are pretty much going to be clones, but most house brands are usually pretty good machines.

From reading the Sieck website the Sieck with the Needle Positioner motor might be a good buy at 2500 euros, especially if you can drive down and pick it up. They don't seem to have a plain servo available. I don't see where it comes with any special feet or needle plates, but you can buy them here in the states if needed.

Art