Members cleanview Posted August 21, 2015 Members Report Posted August 21, 2015 Experience has taught me some, but wanting advice from the more experienced. Is the molding the ejection ports essential? It seems too me that the rounded guns (1911, cz, ect) need that little extra catch. The plastic guns, I aint so sure sometimes. Molding thought two pieces (re enforcement piece) seldom looks good. Is there some tricks? Quote Amarillo Texas bambamholsters.com
mlapaglia Posted August 21, 2015 Report Posted August 21, 2015 How about posting a picture of the holster so we see which one it is? My reinforcement on an Avenger holster is a 1 inch strip around the opening so I can mold as much or as little as I like. I do mold a little around the ejection port but normally do not make it really defined. Word of warning, DO NOT mold tightly around the rail. You will not be able to remove the gun. Dont ask me how I know this. Michael Quote The key to immortality is first living a life worth remembering. Bruce Lee
Contributing Member JLSleather Posted August 21, 2015 Contributing Member Report Posted August 21, 2015 (edited) Me, too --- I'm not big on that broad, flowing "reinforcement panel" on a holster. Basically just making it thicker, while trying to conceal it, which seems ... uhh. not the best idea. In fact, often a holster doesn't require any "reinforcement" at all. But, I do 'have' them and have done them. As a rule, I mold it if it's solid color and/or plain, and I don't mold it if it's tooled. But, like I said, unless you're tooling it, I dont have much use for a full panel. Something more like this (which, by the way,is also about 1" wide).. Edited August 21, 2015 by JLSleather Quote "Observation is 9/10 of the law." IF what you do is something that ANYBODY can do, then don't be surprised when ANYBODY does.
Members renegadelizard Posted August 21, 2015 Members Report Posted August 21, 2015 I typically mold ejection ports, but i dont do a whole lot of boning per se, i dont want the holster to look like the gun, i want to look like a holster...so i usually give it enough thumb and bone folder to sink it in and thats about it... Quote Havoc Holsters
Moderator Art Posted August 21, 2015 Moderator Report Posted August 21, 2015 I've found that the ejection port is variable with the gun. On a .45 ACP not a problem. On a Glock, I have had times that the molding on the ejection port has worked, shall we say, overly well. So while still wet, I reach into the holster and push the molded piece back out, or at least ease it a little. As far as looks go, I don't like molding the holster to the gun except maybe a little. As far as retention goes, sometimes, on off duty stuff, it is necessary. Glocks in particular have all these places that you can really mold into, and while they come out of a wet holster ok, they can really get stuck in a dry one. Also, with any of them with the flat (i mean really flat) top, or of course a high front sight, a channel is really important for the front sight; a fair amount of relief (like the old breakfront) is another way to cure a lot of retention problems. There are many ways to skin a cat (but they are too thin for holster material). Art Quote For heaven's sakes pilgrim, make yourself a strop!
Members cleanview Posted August 21, 2015 Author Members Report Posted August 21, 2015 most of mine do have a larger panel that does in deed cover the port. I guess what I was really getting at is....is it considered essential for retention? I have been told "that is where you get your retention" but after making them for a while, I kind of think that is bleed over from how a Hybrid holster gets its retention. Quote Amarillo Texas bambamholsters.com
Contributing Member JLSleather Posted August 21, 2015 Contributing Member Report Posted August 21, 2015 That "area" should retain the weapon WITHOUT molding the port. f r i c t i o n. Quote "Observation is 9/10 of the law." IF what you do is something that ANYBODY can do, then don't be surprised when ANYBODY does.
Members renegadelizard Posted August 23, 2015 Members Report Posted August 23, 2015 retention is a function of your stitch lines, and to some degree, the trigger guard, but i don't think i would rely on the ejection port to set retention...especially on guns with sharp edges...they will erode the leather and eventually give out... Quote Havoc Holsters
Members chiefjason Posted August 24, 2015 Members Report Posted August 24, 2015 I mold them less than I used to. And not at all on IWB holsters anymore, or just enough to get a bit of detail but little to no retention. Stitch lines will do more for long term retention than the ejection port ever could. And with something like a Sig P238, boning the retention port deeply will result in a useless holster. BTDT. That port has a VERY sharp front edge. BTW, hybrids don't get their retention from the ejection port either. Whoever told you that is probably helping speed up some finish wear. I mask my ports out almost entirely on hybrids now and no real noticeable reduction in working retention. But a noticeable increase in smoothness of the draw. And getting a vacuum table has forced me to mask them out more than pressing them did. That vacuum press will almost mold a logo on the inside. Speaking of rails, I had to heat the rail mold out of one Sat for a buddy. Draw felt like a zipper being pulled. Quote
Members camano ridge Posted August 24, 2015 Members Report Posted August 24, 2015 (edited) I agree with all of the above. The retention comes from friction and I do like to mold in the trigger guard area a little. As to hybrids I make them and you do not want a lot of molding if any in the ejection port area. If you check out the gun molds made by Multimolds (http://multimoldguns.com/) they are made for kydex/hybrid holster makers and the ejection port is filled in as is quite abit of the trigger guard. They don't mold the ejection port. Edited August 24, 2015 by camano ridge Quote https://www.facebook.com/CamanoRidgeCustomLeather?fref=ts
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