Singer Needle Bar - I Could Use Some Help

[Constabulary]

@ EVO160 / Darren - he has none

Still looking for the needle bar diameter and length of Singer 17, 18, 31, 16, 128, 96 or similar machines so I can compare the measures.

Meanwhile I know the 31-15 needle bar has the correct length but for some reason I can´t figure out diameter. Singer 17 / 18 bars will most likely fit but they are a bit shorter. I don´t like ordering parts and send them back as it annoys me and the seller.

Would be nice if some of you guys could pull out your calipers...

Edited November 21, 2015 by Constabulary

[CowboyBob]

The 16,17 & 18 should all be the same since they are all like a 16 class,the 31 bar is .283 & 91/4" long,the 17 is .283 81/4"long ,the 96-80 is .250 ,6" long

Let me know if you need info on anything else.

[Constabulary]

Thanks a lot Bob + Wizcrafts for replying my post and PM and taking some measures. I think I can deal with these information. Fingers crossed.

[Ole South]

I know it's not on your list but Consew 28 (Singer 78-3 clone, circa 1973) diam - 7. 24 mm and roughly 21.5mm length. Diameter is digital mic'd the length is eyeball and ruler.

[pcox]

I may have a 16-88 needle bar extra.

[Constabulary]

Thanks Folks!

@ Pcox

I think they are a bit too short. Better too long than too short.

@Ole South

I think that would have been the closest but I already have ordered a Class 31 and Class 17 bar last week but if they don´t work the next I´ll try will be the Class 78 bar. Too bad you have not replied earlier but no problem at all Thanks anyway!

[Ole South]

I'm sorry Conny, I just saw your thread last night :/ I was guessing they were originally designed around the same time so might share similar traits.

[Constabulary]

Finally got the old Lady working again - bought a dial gauge to find the wobble in the upper shaft and hammered it back to almost zero wobble. Adjusted the shaft bushing a bit and finally I found a working needle bar. Actually the needle bar of a Singer 17 did the job. Seems there are different needle bar length for the same machine sometimes (maybe for special purposes). I tried a needle bar from a pretty beaten Singer 16 before but it was too short. Singer Part # 4264 needle bar in combination with a longer 135x17 needle is working fine.

I´m very pleased  and I again rescued some old cast iron (this one has been rescued twice actually).

[Geneva]

I hope you have found your needle bar by now. The one on my machine is 10.5 inches long and measures .373.

I need to know the operating stitches per minute for this machine. Do you have any idea as to how much it weighs??

 You do very nice work on your restorations. Keep up the excellent work.

Regards vernon nichols

[Constabulary]

Working fine again. My 34K5 is not like your 34K11 - the K5 has the head part of a Singer 16 or the like and the K11 has the head part of a Singer 45K which is much heavier. The K11 is using System 328 needles (AFAIK) and my K5 is now setup for 135x17 (orig. needle system was a different). I don´t know the max stitch per minute, its not mentioned in the manual. My 34KSV5  weights approx 29Kg. Hope this helps.