mojave Report post Posted November 22, 2015 I am getting ready to make some belts for the Holidays and opened my order from Black River Laser that I received in Oct 2015. It had a few items, one which was to be a 6 piece 1-1/4" & 1-1/2" belt end template set with tapered & square ends. What I received was a 10 piece set with NO SQUARE ENDS. The receipt said "Upgraded to 10 piece template". This is a great example of "bait and switch", don't have 6 piece set, so throw something in the package and ship it. I paid and received something I didn't order and didn't want. To bad they didn't have a 15 piece set that included the square ends, that would have been a real upgrade. P.S. I would have called Joyce, but Black River Laser knows what they did. Cheat me the first time, your fault Cheat me the second time, my fault With me there is NO second time Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Art Report post Posted November 23, 2015 I am getting ready to make some belts for the Holidays and opened my order from Black River Laser that I received in Oct 2015. It had a few items, one which was to be a 6 piece 1-1/4" & 1-1/2" belt end template set with tapered & square ends. What I received was a 10 piece set with NO SQUARE ENDS. The receipt said "Upgraded to 10 piece template". This is a great example of "bait and switch", don't have 6 piece set, so throw something in the package and ship it. I paid and received something I didn't order and didn't want. To bad they didn't have a 15 piece set that included the square ends, that would have been a real upgrade. P.S. I would have called Joyce, but Black River Laser knows what they did. Cheat me the first time, your fault Cheat me the second time, my fault With me there is NO second time Yep, I've had days like that too. Since it is your business, and you are in top management; it is often necessary to try and turn lemons into lemonade. Just call them and try and work it out painlessly. Maybe they can just send you the square ends you need and make it painless for everyone. You gotta give them a chance, they have to run their business too, and quite often with help who knows no more about leatherworking than I do about alligator hunting. Art Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seabee Report post Posted November 23, 2015 Art, I would have called them, but no number just ebay site that said I'll be open on the 30th. Thanks,for your responds, I sometimes need to just vent. I do have to say that, their templates are very nice. Howard Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
24VOLTS Report post Posted November 26, 2015 try her website blacklaser.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ducjes Report post Posted December 3, 2015 I am getting ready to make some belts for the Holidays and opened my order from Black River Laser that I received in Oct 2015. It had a few items, one which was to be a 6 piece 1-1/4" & 1-1/2" belt end template set with tapered & square ends. What I received was a 10 piece set with NO SQUARE ENDS. The receipt said "Upgraded to 10 piece template". This is a great example of "bait and switch", don't have 6 piece set, so throw something in the package and ship it. I paid and received something I didn't order and didn't want. To bad they didn't have a 15 piece set that included the square ends, that would have been a real upgrade. P.S. I would have called Joyce, but Black River Laser knows what they did. Cheat me the first time, your fault Cheat me the second time, my fault With me there is NO second time Check out Ponoko next time. Significantly cheaper and significantly faster. Guaranteed to get exactly what you want if you have some design experience. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JLSleather Report post Posted December 5, 2015 I might have called them. Once. Truth be told, it's not MY responsibility to make sure some ELSE hires decent people. If you hire people who don't know that they're doing, that's YOUR issue. New year coming, and already i'm making more changes. I'll be ordering from places who DIDN'T send me the wrong item, or a lower grade than I paid for, or the wrong weight. Life is way too short to be accountable for someone ELSE'S mistakes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites