Edging Question

[Dunluce]

I am about to build my first bag. It will a messanger type bag and I thought it would look good to line the inside with some 0.6mm (1.5 oz) pig suede, however when I was trying it out on some test pieces i found it hard to get the edge right. I originally tried bevelling both sides but the suede just crumpled up. At present I have settled on sanding the suede edge at an angle and bevelling the other edge before trying to slick with some gum trag. It can stll leave the suede not looking too good but it seems to improve as it dries off. How would you finish off the edge? I imagine it must be the same process as for suede lined belts

[bikermutt07]

Watching with interest....

[RockyAussie]

How I would tackle it is in the following link. should help

 

[thefanninator]

Edge paint.

[MonicaJacobson]

I have always avoided using suede for this reason. But people do seem to use it with success... so I dunno. 

[Dunluce]

So I experimented on a couple of sample pieces. I sanded the pigskin at an angle towards the middle of the edge and then bevelled the other side. After this I slicked the edge as normal. The first photo is with the edeg slicked and the second when i put some edge kote on. I don't think it came out too bad. I just wonder if it would stand up to the test of time

[ConradPark]

Many makers don't bother to do any edge polishing on piglining and suede. Two variations are to either skive and turn the piglining or to skive and turn the outer leather, but so it covers the edge of the piglining on the inside.

[MADMAX22]

I use suede backing on rifle slings I use to make. Basically I would glue and stitch like normal, then use the edger on both sides (vegtan and suede), on the suede side I would edge back as much as possible. 

Then I do my burnishing like normal - dye, burnish, wax mix rubbed on, burnish, verify they look good, then when I seal the work with neatlac or a wax/oil mix I do the edges as well. 

Here is a link to a few I made 

Also the only picture I really had of the edges for one of them. 

 

[Halitech]

you could also lace the edges with Mexican round braid instead of sewing. It will cover the edge and hold it together. Not sure if it will give you the look you want but it's an option

[Dunluce]

2 hours ago, MADMAX22 said:

I use suede backing on rifle slings I use to make. Basically I would glue and stitch like normal, then use the edger on both sides (vegtan and suede), on the suede side I would edge back as much as possible. 

Then I do my burnishing like normal - dye, burnish, wax mix rubbed on, burnish, verify they look good, then when I seal the work with neatlac or a wax/oil mix I do the edges as well. 

Here is a link to a few I made 

Also the only picture I really had of the edges for one of them. 

 

Just to be clear, when you say you edge back as much as possible do you mean as close to the stitching as possible? Is it with an edge beveller? When I tried using one it tended to lift ot crumple the suede slightly but maybe if I try stitching first that will make a difference/ What is the weight of the suede here, mine is very thin, about 0.6mm (1.5oz)

By the way I went back and had a look at the photos of your slings/ Very nice!

[MADMAX22]

Thanks. 

This stuff was about 3-4 oz. I would put the padding on, glue on the suede, cut it somewhat close (within half a inch of the veg tan) then stitch. After it was stitched and the glue cured over night I would take a freshly stropped edge beveler and bevel the suede edge which also cut off the excess. The suede wouldnt bunch up as bad with a sharp beveler and with that half inch or so of extra it would give a little bit of rigidity while cutting/beveling. 

After that first cut/bevel I would go back again and basically roll the beveler more toward the suede edge to cut any excess left over and get the bevel as close as possible. 

Hope this makes sense, hard to explain in words. 

Wanted to add, its not going to be perfect like two pieces of veg. But it also can look decent with a little care. 

[Dunluce]

That explains it perfectly and has given me food for thought. Thanks for taking time to reply

[Japi]

You could try "Edgeflex" made in Italy by Fenice. www.Fenice.com.     Put it on with a proper edging roller or a cocktail stick in thin layers, two or three should do the trick. If you put it on too thick it will dry in a lump and either hang over the side or come off in bits. This gives a sort of shiny edge that's kind of hard to the touch.  If you want a more rubbery, plastic feel try  "Maxedge" also from Italy by Giardini.  www.leatheredgepaint.com.       Don't you hate this autotype feature that keeps respelling words as you type. It always puts a full stop after you type out site addresses, puts gaps in them and keeps respelling Fenice as Venice for me. Ho hum, the technology we have to put up with!