Members USMCLoneWolf Posted October 5, 2016 Members Report Posted October 5, 2016 Hey Ya'll, I have had a couple friends who want s.o.b. holsters. Does anyone have a pattern I could use or any idea of how to draw one up?? Any help would be much appreciated!! Thanks!! Quote
Members Dwight Posted October 5, 2016 Members Report Posted October 5, 2016 Just be sure that they know if they have a pistol on their spine, . . . get pushed down hard, . . . they will be in a wheel chair for the rest of their lives. A number of holster makers do not make them for that very reaoson, . . . I am one of them. May God bless, Dwight Quote If you can breathe, . . . thank God. If you can read, . . . thank a teacher. If you are reading this in English, . . . thank a veteran. www.dwightsgunleather.com
Members USMCLoneWolf Posted October 5, 2016 Author Members Report Posted October 5, 2016 For sure!! I have seen that occur in a couple people...but they are paying customers so I feel I must oblige... but I totally get that. Thanks!! Quote
Members Halitech Posted October 6, 2016 Members Report Posted October 6, 2016 actually no you don't have to oblige. If something happens, they can come back and sue you. You are a business person, you have the right to decide if you are going to serve a client or not Quote Every day you learn something is a good day. If you don't learn something every day, was it worth waking up for?
Members plinkercases Posted October 6, 2016 Members Report Posted October 6, 2016 I agree with Halitech. You are the "maker" and absolutely decide what you do and don't make. I am what I believe to be a strange bread... I am a practicing Mennonite, shooting sport enthusiast and holster maker and when I explain to PB clients (versus airgun/airsoft clients) that while I have no opinion on or objection to their right to carry I personally will not make a holster for a gun that is carried for personal defence or duty and thus may be drawn on and take human life they almost always say "OK I can respect that thanks." and if they want a range or competition or wall hanger holster I am ok with all that.... and if they are offended in anyway that is their own business and waste of precious time and energy. And now to be fair and answer you OP question if you google "small of the back holster pattern" and check out the images results there are very good shots of them and some patterns shown as well. If you do make on please post how it went. Quote "Oh my God....I beseech thee grant me the grace to remain in Thy Presence; and to this end do Thou prosper me with Thy assistance, receive all my works, and possess all my affections" Brother Lawrence c.1614-1691 plinkercases.ca
Members USMCLoneWolf Posted October 6, 2016 Author Members Report Posted October 6, 2016 (edited) 12 hours ago, Halitech said: actually no you don't have to oblige. If something happens, they can come back and sue you. You are a business person, you have the right to decide if you are going to serve a client or not Not trying to be rude or anything, more devils advocate, but I would like to see the lawsuits against the larger gun holster manufacturers that made and make sob holsters. I can say that i have never seen or heard of such lawsuits. Not doubting that someone has tried but certainly none have succeeded that i know of. Thanks! Edited October 6, 2016 by USMCLoneWolf Quote
Members Halitech Posted October 6, 2016 Members Report Posted October 6, 2016 the big licensed makers probably have enough lawyers that they've written something into the purchasing agreement to protect themselves. And I didn't say they would, I said they can, same as a regular holster maker can be sued if the trigger break malfunctions and causes injury for example Quote Every day you learn something is a good day. If you don't learn something every day, was it worth waking up for?
Contributing Member JLSleather Posted October 6, 2016 Contributing Member Report Posted October 6, 2016 You are not "obligated" - ever. Always have the right to "just say no". As for being sued, your product does not need to be "unsafe" to get sued. Can things happen? Absolutely. But the holster maker isn't responsible for EVERYTHING you do with a gun. CARS are inherently dangerous. But if you cross the center line and hit someone, it's not the auto maker's "fault". GUNS are dangerous. But if you rob the local store with one, the gun maker isn't guilty of the crime WITH you. Even at the gym.. they have barbells, but it's UNDERSTOOD that you are responsible for your use of them. Years back, I was there and saw a guy get carried to a waiting life-flight helicopter from a barbell to the forehead. It's dangerous - but the barbell maker didn't do it. But this doesn't mean they won't be named in a suit ANYWAY. In fact, it seems the only people likely to NOT be sued are those with little enough money that it makes it not worth the time and trouble to sue them! I can't help with the pattern, since I have never made one of those. My reasoning may be slightly different than some others, but still .... Quote "Observation is 9/10 of the law." IF what you do is something that ANYBODY can do, then don't be surprised when ANYBODY does.
Members TinkerTailor Posted October 6, 2016 Members Report Posted October 6, 2016 You can be sued by anyone anytime. They could be totally out to lunch and their lawsuit gets thrown out of court, you still gotta take the time to deal with it. Even in the unlikely event you get legal fees awarded to you in the judgement, you can not replace the time. Also keep in mind, people with money usually won't file a lawsuit they can't win, whereas people with no money and nothing to lose will sue you a hail mary play. If you are awarded legal fees and damages from these people, good luck collecting. Again, the collecting is your time, which is irreplaceable. As a rule, if you are concerned enough to question whether it is right to do something, it is not right. Do not do it. Listen to your instincts. Quote "If nobody shares what they know, we will eventually all know nothing." "There is no adventure in letting fear and common sense be your guide"
Members TinkerTailor Posted October 6, 2016 Members Report Posted October 6, 2016 17 hours ago, Dwight said: Just be sure that they know if they have a pistol on their spine, . . . get pushed down hard, . . . they will be in a wheel chair for the rest of their lives. A number of holster makers do not make them for that very reaoson, . . . I am one of them. May God bless, Dwight Being from a non-pistol carryin country I am a little lost here, Can you elaborate on the added danger of carrying this way? Quote "If nobody shares what they know, we will eventually all know nothing." "There is no adventure in letting fear and common sense be your guide"
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