Cowboy cb341

[Wizcrafts]

The reason a CB 341 might sew up to 1/2 inch has to do with it being setup with System 190 needles. Even then, I believe that the needle bar would hit the top of the raised feet at 1/2 inch elevation. I had a National 300N that I converted over to System 190. I was able to sew 7/16" of leather, maximum. Sewing any thicker would require a set of feet with lower top surface profiles.

NB: Sewing such thicknesses on a walking foot machine causes the crank that comes in from the back of the head to move higher in the head. Metal has to be removed from that area in order to let the high riding crank shaft clear the head. Basically, the machine is being converted into a "stroker."

[Kaje]

Do you think the 341 would be able to sew belts and bags?  I was hoping to use 207 thread at least for looks.  I know there is no one machine that does it all but I don't plan on making holsters or tack and the thinnest I would sew is maybe some lining leather for wallet interiors.

[bikermutt07]

19 hours ago, MADMAX22 said:

Looks like a good machine.Looks like a 153w but beefed up with reverse and large bobbin.  Looking at there site I dig the effort with the special edition 4500 but wow is it ugly IMHO.  

See, I thought it looked pretty cool. And while I can totally understand the price point of custom work. I wouldn't throw another 400 dollars at a machine that already costs well over 2 grand.

Not that it's not worth it, it is. It just isn't to me.

But I stand behind the statement that it's cool looking.

[Wizcrafts]

6 hours ago, Kaje said:

Do you think the 341 would be able to sew belts and bags?  I was hoping to use 207 thread at least for looks.  I know there is no one machine that does it all but I don't plan on making holsters or tack and the thinnest I would sew is maybe some lining leather for wallet interiors.

Since you live in Ohio, the man to ask is Bob Kovar, in Toledo, at Toledo Industrial Sewing Machines.

[Mark842]

32 minutes ago, bikermutt07 said:

See, I thought it looked pretty cool. And while I can totally understand the price point of custom work. I wouldn't throw another 400 dollars at a machine that already costs well over 2 grand.

Not that it's not worth it, it is. It just isn't to me.

But I stand behind the statement that it's cool looking.

One thing I learned long ago when it comes to designing and selling new products. Never throw out a product idea because you don't like how it looks. For every person that doesn't like the way something looks there is probably one that will love it.

 The paint job is not to my tastes but I don't think it is ugly. I just wouldn't pay extra for it.

[MADMAX22]

Not to mention I think its funny they charge extra for it. Ya look at old singers and others from way back and they came standard with some good looks and embellishments. Just how it was. There is very little art in modern manufacturing because of the bottom dollar and what not. Just gotta hope it last a few years before it gets thrown in the ocean. Now if we could just get them to properly clone some needle and awl machines that would be fantastic but not gonna happen. 

[bikermutt07]

Well Maxx, it is a custom paint job. They mention each one being unique. And at 400 dollars for a custom paint job, it is plenty reasonable. I imagine this is something that that particular Dallas distributor is outsourcing locally. In the south custom pinstriping is pretty popular with the rat rod community. It's not too far into left field to imagine some of those folks being into leather work. They like to do things themselves and love odd embellishments. So, I can see why this is being offered.

[MADMAX22]

8 minutes ago, bikermutt07 said:

Well Maxx, it is a custom paint job. They mention each one being unique. And at 400 dollars for a custom paint job, it is plenty reasonable. I imagine this is something that that particular Dallas distributor is outsourcing locally. In the south custom pinstriping is pretty popular with the rat rod community. It's not too far into left field to imagine some of those folks being into leather work. They like to do things themselves and love odd embellishments. So, I can see why this is being offered.

Yeah I can see that if they do it themselves. Ya sure they do it or is it shipped over here like that? If they gotta pull it apart and strip it or more then likely spray over it sure. 

If it came from the overseas factory like that well I doubt it cost anywhere near $400 to do. Its easy to do things like that when you dont have the EPA and just dump all your crap in the river 

[Colt W Knight]

Biker leather guys and custom hit rod interior guys would probably love that paint job. If someone asked me to paint a guitar like that, I'd probably ask 500-600$

[bikermutt07]

1 hour ago, MADMAX22 said:

Yeah I can see that if they do it themselves. Ya sure they do it or is it shipped over here like that? If they gotta pull it apart and strip it or more then likely spray over it sure. 

If it came from the overseas factory like that well I doubt it cost anywhere near $400 to do. Its easy to do things like that when you dont have the EPA and just dump all your crap in the river 

They mentioned only having a dozen of them made up and I haven't seen them on anyone else's site. That leads me to believe it was done locally. But, it's only a guess.