Members Tugadude Posted December 22, 2016 Members Report Posted December 22, 2016 2 hours ago, mayorblurps said: I think it looks neat and different but I prefer saddle stitching anyway. It's clean, strong as heck and just plain works. Now if I can figure out to use 2 color threads at once I'll be getting somewhere. Thank you for the info!! Try this link... Quote
Members gmace99 Posted December 22, 2016 Members Report Posted December 22, 2016 Quote www.uksaddlery.com Saddlery training courses in Dunoon Scotland UK.
Members TinkerTailor Posted December 23, 2016 Members Report Posted December 23, 2016 (edited) I do this stitch to join leather to canvas on one of my dopp kit designs: I find that single needle is much easier when dealing with several layers of canvas. Finding the hole in the leather from the backside with the needle can be a bear, so saddle stitch ends up way too slow. This photo is a few years old now. Edited December 23, 2016 by TinkerTailor Quote "If nobody shares what they know, we will eventually all know nothing." "There is no adventure in letting fear and common sense be your guide"
Boriqua Posted December 24, 2016 Report Posted December 24, 2016 I have used that same stitch as decoration on bag flaps .. its no great secret stitch. I dont know why saddle stitch would be overkill but there are all sorts of weird ideas and terms used on etsy so I dont get to hung up on it. It may be in my old stitching leather book but I am not sure. Its pretty and there is a place for everything. Quote
Members HENDREFORGAN Posted December 24, 2016 Members Report Posted December 24, 2016 On 12/21/2016 at 3:04 AM, Halitech said: Saddle stitch is over kill because she probably can't figure it out. It's a backstitch as ENC said and has the same inherit flaw as machine stitching, cut one stitch and the whole thing unravels. That is a point of view towards hand stitching with two needles I took myself for over 25 years . . until my age meant my thumbs could no longer act as "G clamps". So I began to use sewing machines to take over and, today, I'll put work I've done on my Durkopp Adler 205-370 against examples of my hand saddle stitching and I'll be very happy with the result. You know sewing machines use TWO threads too? As for the work shown in the question I even wonder if it could be a single thread using a blunt needle through pricked out holes, unfortunately the Etsy pix do not show the stitching in enough detail for us Nerd's to fully figure it out. One photo, https://img0.etsystatic.com/128/1/7763764/il_fullxfull.857546534_r8qj.jpg , might bear out my thoughts? Top stitch shows the slant but bottom stitch the thread is running in a line. I agree with Tugadud, it's that sellers signature and each of us must find our own, to simply copy others is no credit at all. Quote Always remember. Every engineer out there now stands on the shoulders of ALL other engineers who went before them.
Members Halitech Posted December 25, 2016 Members Report Posted December 25, 2016 5 hours ago, HENDREFORGAN said: That is a point of view towards hand stitching with two needles I took myself for over 25 years . . until my age meant my thumbs could no longer act as "G clamps". So I began to use sewing machines to take over and, today, I'll put work I've done on my Durkopp Adler 205-370 against examples of my hand saddle stitching and I'll be very happy with the result. You know sewing machines use TWO threads too? Thank you for that profound statement and educating me that sewing machines use 2 threads, I would never have guessed that despite having a sewing machine of my own. I'm glad that you are happy with your machine stitch compared to your saddle stitching, however, that doesn't change the fact that you cut a thread on a sewing machine lock stitch, and it is going to unravel where the saddle stitch will not. Quote Every day you learn something is a good day. If you don't learn something every day, was it worth waking up for?
Contributing Member JLSleather Posted December 25, 2016 Contributing Member Report Posted December 25, 2016 1 hour ago, Halitech said: you cut a thread on a sewing machine lock stitch, and it is going to unravel where the saddle stitch will not. This is a myth, and not even a particularly good one. I have a copy of stohlman's sewing book around here somewhere, and all due respect to Mr. Stohlman,.. TRUTH is: I have -- on more than one occasion -- made a mistake of some sort, and needed to remove the stitching put in by machine. After cutting the top AND bottom threads, I can tell you that it does not "fall out" or "unravel". Fact is, removing the thread -- though done by machine -- is a pain in the back, and requires that each stitch be "unlocked" .... not a 2-minute deal! Quote "Observation is 9/10 of the law." IF what you do is something that ANYBODY can do, then don't be surprised when ANYBODY does.
Members HENDREFORGAN Posted December 25, 2016 Members Report Posted December 25, 2016 5 hours ago, JLSleather said: This is a myth, and not even a particularly good one. I have a copy of stohlman's sewing book around here somewhere, and all due respect to Mr. Stohlman,.. TRUTH is: I have -- on more than one occasion -- made a mistake of some sort, and needed to remove the stitching put in by machine. After cutting the top AND bottom threads, I can tell you that it does not "fall out" or "unravel". Fact is, removing the thread -- though done by machine -- is a pain in the back, and requires that each stitch be "unlocked" .... not a 2-minute deal! @JLSleatherI was going to comment having seen @Halitech leave rather silly sarcasm against my remark but I simply can't say better than you Sir, those are words based upon FACT and EXPERIENCE. Hand stitcher's should never forget that the real work in machine stitching leather is to use the right machine, needle and thread BUT to make sure the machine is set up correctly. If so then the passing point for the lock stitch is half-way through the hides being stitched. Get the tension right and . . well . . @JLSleather said it all . . nuff said. Quote Always remember. Every engineer out there now stands on the shoulders of ALL other engineers who went before them.
Members AndersenLeather Posted December 25, 2016 Members Report Posted December 25, 2016 Of course it will not unravel 2 seconds after it has been cut. The question is how it will hold up to continious use. I still haven't seen anybody document this. It should be pretty straight forward. Quote
Contributing Member JLSleather Posted December 25, 2016 Contributing Member Report Posted December 25, 2016 4 hours ago, jonasbo said: haven't seen anybody document this. It should be pretty straight forward. Good for you! Don't take anybody else's word for it -- TRY it and then you'll know. More people should take the "show me" attitude (we'd have less 'knowing' and more "doing" for starters ) Quote "Observation is 9/10 of the law." IF what you do is something that ANYBODY can do, then don't be surprised when ANYBODY does.
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