Contributing Member JLSleather Posted March 24, 2017 Contributing Member Report Posted March 24, 2017 Why do you see these "lists"? I mean, if you have a "waiting list" of weeks or months, couldn't you just get that gun you don't have and make one by then?!@~#! Quote "Observation is 9/10 of the law." IF what you do is something that ANYBODY can do, then don't be surprised when ANYBODY does.
Members Mattsbagger Posted March 24, 2017 Members Report Posted March 24, 2017 I know I'm new to this. I ship most things ordered within 7 days. Next day if it's a ready made item. Quote
Members HBAR Posted March 24, 2017 Members Report Posted March 24, 2017 (edited) Unless you have access to every gun ever made, the list is necessary. Also, I do many holsters with gun, laser, light combinations, that gets even worse. Blue guns are only made for a fraction of total firearm models. Other mold makers, make even less selection. There are plenty of guns you cant get a mold for. plenty. I have close to 200 molds and I still dont have everything I need. Probably 10 or so handgun mounted lights and lasers too. By the time you think you got it handeld somebody requests a holster for a gun that nobody else owns. Nobody else makes a holster for it either, so they finally have gotten around to you after going through every other holster maker they know about. edit... My waiting list is usually 3 weeks. I often ship in 4 or 5 days. I dont have ready made items. Well maybe very rarely. Show me a craftsman who doesnt have a waiting list and I will show you a craftsman without enough business. Everyone wants to get their order immediately (me too) but if you can get your custom items from me in less than 3 weeks, that should show you I dont have enough business or I would be 6 months out too. Edited March 24, 2017 by HBAR Quote
Members chiefjason Posted March 24, 2017 Members Report Posted March 24, 2017 At least 6 time a year I'm asked about a gun I can't get a mold for. Heck, I have a guy driving an hour to my house to get a second holster for an odd ball revolver. He mentioned it on a gun board I'm on and another guy is having me make him one too. Can't make one for a Charter Arms 9mm revolver without the actual gun. I can't tell you how many holsters I've made for the Taurus PT111 G2 BEFORE a mold was out. I borrowed one multiple times and ended up just buying the gun. I make several holsters for guns most folks don't offer, but I had to buy the guns to do it. I find it kind of funny to see the guys that basically have the enter rings list as available. Those guys are doing what you are talking about I bet. Waiting until they have an order to get the mold. My guess is it's an easy way to answer questions without taking the time to communicate with someone. If they don't see their gun they can be on their way. Quote
Contributing Member JLSleather Posted March 24, 2017 Author Contributing Member Report Posted March 24, 2017 (edited) 10 hours ago, HBAR said: I do many holsters with gun, laser, light combinations, that gets even worse. Blue guns are only made for a fraction of total firearm models. RIght. And 'pancakes' and 'avengers' and shoulder holsters and chest models and cross-draw... etc. Making a complete list not really even possible, much less 'reasonable'. I say on my site -- it's not practical (or even possible) to list or show every item I've ever made in leather. A year or so ago I made a 'thing' for a girl who plays violin. Tooled piece, goes on her arm somehow like a brace (ish). She's tickled pink. But she didn't find out I made those from any list. Just asked -- and I said okay. 6 hours ago, chiefjason said: If they don't see their gun they can be on their way. But, is that what you want them to do? I mean, SAY I had a CA 9mm. If I find your site, and you don't list it, would you prefer that I don't ask? I'd certainly not like it if someone didn't ask me about a holster because they didn't see it in some list ... Anyway, not sure how we got on "blue guns", since I never mentioned those to begin with. NOW, having said that, I DO think it's worth having a list IF you have items ready to ship out, or close to ready. For those who 'want it now', you certainly need to let them know what you have 'now'. 6 hours ago, chiefjason said: I find it kind of funny to see the guys that basically have the enter rings list as available. Those guys are doing what you are talking about I bet. Waiting until they have an order to get the mold. Again, not really talking about having a "mold", though that prolly is the 'deal' with some. I actually HAVE picked up molds I didn't own JUST BECAUSE someone asked (the entire Boberg series was done 'by request'). But that only proves my point..I got the order for those WITHOUT any list - just because people saw that I know leather. My guess is it's an easy way to answer questions without taking the time to communicate with someone My guess would be that they're hoping that by putting "glock 19" on their site (for example) that a search for "glock 19" will show their site. Sort of a little child's SEO approach Edited March 24, 2017 by JLSleather Quote "Observation is 9/10 of the law." IF what you do is something that ANYBODY can do, then don't be surprised when ANYBODY does.
Members HBAR Posted March 24, 2017 Members Report Posted March 24, 2017 I realize you spend alot of time on the internet, but maybe in your travels you never noticed some peoples websites allow you to order online. If you dont have a list, how can they know what to put in the cart? My website unfortunately doesnt offer me the ability to put every kind of gun on the drop down list when you put something in the cart. So they have to pick the style of holster, cant, other features, etc, (or other item not necessarily holsters) then they have to type in the kind of gun they want it made for. I guess I could not have a list, they could pay and then I could inform them that I dont have access to an FP-45 Liberator from 1942. I could then waste more time refunding their money, while they are now disappointed that they wasted time making the order. More time in the real world, less time online might do us all good. Quote
Contributing Member JLSleather Posted March 24, 2017 Author Contributing Member Report Posted March 24, 2017 I don't have a "storefront" site, either - nor do I want one (or I would have one). I do not take money today for items I may provide in WEEKS or MONTHS. Nor do I pay anyone else WEEKS in advance -- and I mean anyone. NOBODY is 'that' good, and anybody can be replaced (period). There are thousands of places to get a holster, so the idea that I would wait MONTHS for any one guy is ridiculous, even if I didn't make my own. Personally, when I see these lists of "guns I build for", if the one I want isn't on the list, I assume that either 1) they don't know how to make a holster for gunX or 2.) they don't want to make that one. In those cases, having a list actually CAUSED me to shop somewhere else. If you want a list, then have one. Or if you don't want a list, then don't have one But I don't know what is to be gained here by arguing with me - particularly for people who are so very busy... Quote "Observation is 9/10 of the law." IF what you do is something that ANYBODY can do, then don't be surprised when ANYBODY does.
Members HBAR Posted March 24, 2017 Members Report Posted March 24, 2017 7 minutes ago, JLSleather said: But I don't know what is to be gained here by arguing with me - particularly for people who are so very busy... I guess its your overly condescending attitude that everyone else but you is wrong. Typical internet shit. Quote
Members Josh Ashman Posted March 24, 2017 Members Report Posted March 24, 2017 I've stopped taking any orders for a while so I can get caught up. When I start up again I don't plan on making holsters for anything that I don't already own or have a mold for. I actually like the idea of limiting it to only 1911's and SAA's, but since I have a bunch of molds it makes sense to build for them too.I might think differently if I did this for a living, then again I might not. Different business models make sense to different people. If you want to make a holster for anyone who wants one, great! If you want to build a select few holsters for people who want them, great! Quote
Members wayner Posted March 24, 2017 Members Report Posted March 24, 2017 wow people if your a custom holster maker thats fine if you can only make them from what patterns you have or can not make a pattern like myself thats fine use a list. i always thought custom men't you could just about do anything but be honest if you dont have the mold gun or the real gun take the time and tell the would be customer that . that way they will understand the reason as to why! Quote
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