Singer 132K SV 11 -> a 132K6 variant?

[Constabulary]

Does someone have information about this Singer 132K SV 11?

To me it looks like a 132K6 variant but with (I guess) on/off for the top feed mechnism. I at least have no other explanation for the "device" on the backside (note lever left of top feed mechanism).

[jimi]

Looks like some kind of extra foot?? or for a trimmer?? that is maybe why the needle plate is broken also?? are these needle plates the same size as the 45s??

[patria]

Looks like beefy machine @Constabulary , do you have any experience on how thick 132k6 can handle? Needle / thread range ?

I think i saw one on sale at local trading forum

[Constabulary]

Jimi, my first guess (or hope) was that it "could" be a needle feed but don´t believe it but who knows... The roller foot seems to be a modification I don´t think it it original to this machines (also a guess). I hope I can take a look at the machine around Pentecost. Haven´t though of a trimmer but that could explain the modified plates. New plates and feed dog are avail. from College Sewing. The plate indeed are the same size as for the 45K but I´m not sure if the cut out is the same.

Patria, I have not sewn with a 132K6 but I think 8-10mm thickness should be possible.

[Yetibelle]

Did the Jawa's stop by and unload them from the Sandcrawler like in Star Wars? 

 

 

 

 

[torrbuidhe]

I think its a fore runner of the 132k12, look at the parts chart for the 132k6, k10 & k12.

There's also this old ebay listing, which is even handier with good pictures.

www.ebay.ie/itm/SINGER-132K12-132K-12-INDUSTRIAL-TRMIMMING-STITCHING-SEWING-MACHINE-/121210750608

Neil

Edited April 14, 2017 by torrbuidhe

[Constabulary]

Ha - you hit the Nail, Neil.

I was not even thinking of the parts list as it looked too unusual to me . I even have an original parts book "132K6-132K10 and 132K12"

So with other words too bad that this machine is no longer complete but maybe its possible to turn it "at least" into a 132K6 as it is quite similar but don´t know. Will see the machine at pentecost...

Thnaks a lot for the hint, Neil!!!

Edited April 14, 2017 by Constabulary

[Constabulary]

Finally I have it here - it indeed is a forerunner or prototype (SV machine) of the later 132K12 or maybe it is a SV because it came with additional accessories that the standard 132K12 - who knows... As expected - the machine is not in its original configuration (no knife installed, different needle plate roller foot...) - thats too bad. The knife rod still works and the lever on the face plate side is for engaging the knife bar and the lever on the back is for disengaging the knife bar - JFTC someone is interested.

Serial number dates it to 1948

Tension unit needs a new spring, I have to replace the feed dog. I alreday added a new needle plate. I think the right plate of a 45K can replace the original right side plate... So not much "basic work". Original paint and decals are in very good condition.

So what can I do with it? Completing - I guess - it`s not possible since K12 parts are no longer available I guess and I have no use for a machine with trimming device (or do I? Naaaa...).

My (rough) idea would be trying to turn it into a 132K6 - if it is possible at all. The mechanism on the backside looks pretty similar - so my question is can some one who owns a 132K6 help me with some picture of a 132K6 with removed faceplate so I can compare parts and their location (my parts list does not include an exploded drawing)

It is just a very rough and maybe ambitious idea and I know I most likely have to rework the casting... Anyway - I have not paid very much for it and I would give it a try.

So I´d really appreciate if some 132k6 owner could post a few good pictures of the mechanics of the backside and behind the face plate

Edited June 23, 2017 by Constabulary

[CowboyBob]

[Constabulary]

Thanks a lot Bob. In theory its looks like it could work... Or not....

So from what I can see and what I can see in my parts list I at least need this: 97729, 97730, 97731, 97736, 97737, 97742, 97802 + some screws

 

[dikman]

Just a thought (and I'm probably on the wrong track) but I thought the 132K6 had a "snap foot" system, where the presser foot kicked forward and back? (Or something like that). If that's the case then if this one has a roller foot then it can't use the same "snap feed", can it?

[Constabulary]

Right, K6 has a snap (or jump) foot system but the foot bar on my KSV11 that holds the roller foot (which is not original to this machine) is the same as on the K6 but on the K6 it is holding the not moving "inner" foot.

The mechanism on the back side is quite the same as on the K6 but on the K6 is "controls" the movement of the outer foot via a bell crank lever and on my KSV11 it is controlling the movement of the knife bar.

As I said this is a very wild and rough idea and it most likely will take a few month until I have all parts together - if it is possible at all.

I could use this machine as a standard drop feed machine w/o problems but thats no challenge (I love the tinkering) and I already have a Singer 45D91 and 133K3 with drop feed. So we will see how far I can get...

[dikman]

"(I love the tinkering)" - I know exactly what you mean!

[Constabulary]

Finally I dropped the idea turning it into a 132K6. Why? Because I found a 132K6 (head only). Was a real attic find fat a closed down leather factory in North Hesse (Germany). Machine was totally gummed and covered with dust, flyspeck and light surface rust but after a thorough cleaning it turned out really nice. And a bonus I got a 111G156 head for free. They just wanted to get rid of these machines.

Will post some pictures later.

[dikman]

So, after such a good find what are you going to do with the SV?

[Constabulary]

Dunu what to do with the SV - maybe stripping for spare parts or sell the head as drop feed machine or set it up with table / motor and then selling it... It does not eat bread so it can stay on the shelf for a while.

So this is the cleaned 132K6

Edited November 3, 2017 by Constabulary

[dikman]

That came up really nice - guess you won't be re-painting it?

[Constabulary]

Ha ha - no THIS machine is will not be repainted Decals and paint are too nice! Note to Jimi:  No silver this time

I have stored away a black cast iron Singer stand on my attic for approx 2 years which was waiting for a machine like this. But setting up the machine completely will take some time and being hosted I have to re-think my space

[Constabulary]

Finally found the time for finishing 1 of the 2 Singer cast iron stands. It´s completely repainted. Small pedal is for the foot lifter bar but I yet haven´t found a lifter bar for an acceptable price - seems the lifter bars was an optional items. College Sewing has them but I don´t want to pay that stupid price for just a foot lift bar

So I´m getting closer to finishing my 132K6 setup

 

 

Edited April 4, 2018 by Constabulary

[dikman]

Just saw this (been away on a bike trip and catching up on stuff), nice job, I did up one of those stands and reckon they're a great looking stand!

[Constabulary]

sooo - my 132K6 setup is almost done

Finally found a plate (badly wanted a vintage one) - well rather a complete machine from I which I only needed the plate but the rest is nice too. However for my setup I only needed the plate. I restored a stand earlier this year (see above pictures). Plate was dirty and oily but a lot of paint thinner and sanding made it look nice again - still have a nice vintage look. Plate is really nice quality and also has these nice extensions on either end.

This is the "donator"

I had to modify the plate to accommodated the larger 132K flat bed + hinges.

Some pictures - I don´t think I have to make a lot of words:

 

 

 

Edited November 3, 2018 by Constabulary

[Constabulary]

Some more

Edited November 3, 2018 by Constabulary

[shoepatcher]

Nice job Folker.    A lot of work as usual as we both know what is involved to do these.

glenn

[dikman]

Looks good. I like those old stands, they look nice and are very solid.

Where did you get the motor? I haven't seen one with such a low profile before (so low that i can't see it!)

[Constabulary]

@dikman - thats a secret Singer technology only a few know of - its a self powered machine you can run it with plutonium but I have a hard time finding plutonium - have to check with the Russians .

I´m about restoring the old clutch motor which really runs nice and smooth but not sure if I will install it here (but it´s just worth keeping), I think I will go with a JACK servo. Since I want to use the old motor mounting holes (1 left side , 2 right side  - so just the other way around as on nowadays motor mounts ) and due to the speed reducer I have to make a extended motor mount to make room for the 2nd V-belt. Something like this... (stolen from Hot Rodders forum)