John Wayne Suede out belt.

[Forester]

Hi All

A customer has asked me to make a John Wayne suede out money belt, having not made one before I thought I would ask all you kind people. What thickness and what kind of leather should I use, do you soak it first then fold in half and let dry, would you oil the suede side as you would a normal belt, and is there any other thing I should look into before I start making. Thank you all in advance.

Regards Forester

[Mattsbagger]

The El Dorado pattern Pac has it included. Didn't you make one already minus the money belt? Will Ghormley pattern is one I used. Didn't make the money belt part. It just says a Premium sueded split side in sand color on mine.

[Dwight]

I make it with the suede folded, . . . best side out,

It is a fun one to make in my opinion.

I only leave the money belt part of it open far enough to get in a folded confederate bill, . . . the rest is not only sewn, but also contact cemented together.

This is the last one I did.

And, . . . no, I didn't oil the suede, . . . just a light coat of Resolene 50/50 with water, . . . my customer and I both really liked the end result.

May God bless,

Dwight

[plinkercases]

Dwight what are the snaps beside the keeper for?

And I assume you mean that you leave enough length from the "mouth" of the money pouch for the bills and then the rest of the belt length is glued full width. correct?

[Dwight]

Yes, . . . you are correct that the mouth of the belt is only deep enough for the bills to go back in and be secure.

The snaps hold the buckle tab, . . . it folds back under the bottom of the buckle, . . . threads down through both layers, . . . doubles back under the belt keeper, . . . and snaps.  

I tried it, . . . and using that arrangement, I could even put larger coins in the money part of it, . . . and they would not come out.  

I don't know what happened to the pictures, . . . so I'll post it again so you can see it.  I don't have the belt here, or I'd get a better pic of it, . . . long ago went to it's new owner.

May God bless,

Dwight

[plinkercases]

Ok that all makes sense Dwight thanks.

[Forester]

Thanks Dwight

Some good information there, just what I needed. I would never have thought of gluing the entire length apart from the money section. Doing it that way I imagine makes it easier to sew up. Still a bit confused how you attach the belt keeper though.

Regards Forester

[Dwight]

I'm not the worlds best artist, . . . but here's a little drawing that may clear up some of the mud.

May God bless,

Dwight

[Forester]

Dwight

Thanks for the time and effort you put into the drawings, I now fully understand.

All the best Forester

[plinkercases]

Yes Dwight that makes it very clear.... don't knock your  artistic side!

question I have is.... in a period correct model would they would have had  dome snaps? so what would the fastening method have been? mind you I am not sure what period a money belt gun belt is from and perhaps they had snaps?