Members Dwight Posted May 23, 2017 Members Report Posted May 23, 2017 If a feller had a couple weeks he didn't know what else to do with, . . . I really think the boss could be changed over to a "air over oil" cylinder operation quite easily, . . . with a rocker pedal for the foot, . . . and a sliding air switch and second cylinder on the presser foot, . . . he could keep both hands on the leather, . . . and just as fast as he could rock that foot of his, . . . he could do stitches. BUT, . . . my way, . . . the arm gets tired, . . . it's time for Hershey's and coffee, . . . May God bless, Dwight Quote If you can breathe, . . . thank God. If you can read, . . . thank a teacher. If you are reading this in English, . . . thank a veteran. www.dwightsgunleather.com
Contributing Member fredk Posted May 23, 2017 Contributing Member Report Posted May 23, 2017 Wouldn't it be easy to convert it to a foot pedal operation by attaching a push-rod to the main handle and a crank at the bottom of the push-rod, attached to a pedal. Like a crankshaft - cam operating over-head/side valves in an engine via a pushrod, only just one set rather than 16? Quote Al speling misteaks aer all mi own werk..
Members Sanch Posted May 23, 2017 Author Members Report Posted May 23, 2017 6 hours ago, Dwight said: If a feller had a couple weeks he didn't know what else to do with, . . . I really think the boss could be changed over to a "air over oil" cylinder operation quite easily, . . . with a rocker pedal for the foot, . . . and a sliding air switch and second cylinder on the presser foot, . . . he could keep both hands on the leather, . . . and just as fast as he could rock that foot of his, . . . he could do stitches. BUT, . . . my way, . . . the arm gets tired, . . . it's time for Hershey's and coffee, . . . May God bless, Dwight I'm sure there are many ways the machine could be modified but for the cost of any mods you may as well purchase an electric monster.... 6 hours ago, fredk said: Wouldn't it be easy to convert it to a foot pedal operation by attaching a push-rod to the main handle and a crank at the bottom of the push-rod, attached to a pedal. Like a crankshaft - cam operating over-head/side valves in an engine via a pushrod, only just one set rather than 16? again modifying the thing wouldn't be cost effective and would void any type of warranties as you'd likely change torque and tortion points Quote
Members Darren Brosowski Posted June 10, 2017 Members Report Posted June 10, 2017 The Cowboy "OUTLAW" machine will be available in October. It is a similar machine that has many improvements to the point where it is being Patented. Quote
Members OldNews Posted June 10, 2017 Members Report Posted June 10, 2017 I have a BOSS and have been very pleased with it. It's not fast, which I like, but it will literally sew anything you want. I've sewn everything from canvas to saddle skirts, and it has worked very well. The service is absolutely the best in the business. My one complaint is that you never have a free hand when sewing. Especially on something like a saddle skirt, I sometimes have to get another person to work the handle while I keep things straight. It seems like lots of folks think they are an inferior machine, but I would certainly disagree. It's a machine I will never get rid of, because it's just to darn handy to have standing in the corner. Quote
Members plinkercases Posted June 10, 2017 Members Report Posted June 10, 2017 I own and use one (though not nearly as often as I would like - hence it is up for sale) and it is a great machine, takes up very little space, had lots of easy to change accessories, EXCELLENT support service when needed. Mine is the aluminium version and just make it that much easier to move around as far as I can tell. Definitely a learning curve even when going back to it after a long time away but once set up fro the task at hand it does it thing as it is supposed to. I agree (and have dreamt of) the idea of modifying it mechanically to cycle by some other source of energy than my arm... mostly to free a hand up fro the work. Like Dwight when I get tired I just take a break. Quote "Oh my God....I beseech thee grant me the grace to remain in Thy Presence; and to this end do Thou prosper me with Thy assistance, receive all my works, and possess all my affections" Brother Lawrence c.1614-1691 plinkercases.ca
Members Yetibelle Posted June 10, 2017 Members Report Posted June 10, 2017 1 hour ago, OldNews said: I have a BOSS and have been very pleased with it. It's not fast, which I like, but it will literally sew anything you want. I've sewn everything from canvas to saddle skirts, and it has worked very well. The service is absolutely the best in the business. My one complaint is that you never have a free hand when sewing. Especially on something like a saddle skirt, I sometimes have to get another person to work the handle while I keep things straight. It seems like lots of folks think they are an inferior machine, but I would certainly disagree. It's a machine I will never get rid of, because it's just to darn handy to have standing in the corner. Every tool has its use, I think the BOSS gets picked on because it's in the $1200-$1400 price range and there are many used and new sewing options (with motors) that compete in that space. So from that mindset we want to compare them directly against one and other. While the BOSS is really in a category by itself. I love all heavy stitchers and if I had the money and the space would have them all. Quote One day I hope to learn how to sew..... Singer 111W155 - Singer 29-4 - Singer 78-1 - Singer 7-31 - Singer 109w100 - Singer 46W-SV-16 - Adler 20-19 - Cowboy CB-4500
bikermutt07 Posted June 10, 2017 Report Posted June 10, 2017 I don't really have a dog in this fight, but..... My problem is the price range they are in. With no motor or table I can't see them being worth much more than 6 or 700.00. I just don't see it (and I know the market will bear what the market will bear). Quote I'm not paying 80 bucks for a belt!!! It's a strip of leather. How hard could it be? 4 years and 3 grand later.... I have a belt I can finally live with. Stitching is like gravy, it's only great if you make it every day. From Texas but in Bossier City, Louisiana.
Members plinkercases Posted June 10, 2017 Members Report Posted June 10, 2017 1 hour ago, bikermutt07 said: I don't really have a dog in this fight, but..... My problem is the price range they are in. With no motor or table I can't see them being worth much more than 6 or 700.00. I just don't see it (and I know the market will bear what the market will bear). Fight isn't really the right analogy... comparison match maybe but this is in a class of its own really. More like looking at melons and blue berries... both technically berries and you can eat them but... Yes it is a stitching machine but past that not really like any other. I takes almost no space when not in use, needs no power (i.e. can travel with you if you have a cottage, camp, vacation spot etc.) - one owner I know goes to horse shows and does on the spot tack repair from the back of his truck... and I have seen them fitted with a small table top which helps with the one hand operation. They also have OEM side guide which also helps.. One of the main things is it will really go through 3/4 inch of hide.. really... either just as a whole lunch or to run the stitch in, NO motor to fail, no electronics/servos, no belts/clutches all mechanical points of failure, all mean maintenance and cost of ownership long term. Boss will suffer some mechanical wear over time and constant use but then you swap out a mechanical part at home. So lots of unique features/benefits and needs to be assessed for what IT is and offers and do you want it for that and the price. I don't think you will make a decision comparing it to electric table, cylinder, post or otherwise. They have been on the market for years so there seems to be a market... really the question is simple - are you in the market for one and what it does or not.... and many of us have more than one stitcher anyhow not counting our 2 hands. Having said all that now I don't want to sell mine even though I need the money! Sanch let us know where you land on you question/decision and then what you think based on your experience with it you go for it.. Quote "Oh my God....I beseech thee grant me the grace to remain in Thy Presence; and to this end do Thou prosper me with Thy assistance, receive all my works, and possess all my affections" Brother Lawrence c.1614-1691 plinkercases.ca
bikermutt07 Posted June 10, 2017 Report Posted June 10, 2017 Those are all valid points, Plink. When I see some items that have long paid for r&d something in my brain just can't bring me to pay what retail will still demand. I call it my "ar syndrome". The technology has been paid for for 50+ years and I can't imagine a stock ar should retail for more than 400.00. But yet people are still shelling out 700.00 daily for them. And I still don't own one. Maybe I'm just a cheap skate when it comes to somethings. Quote I'm not paying 80 bucks for a belt!!! It's a strip of leather. How hard could it be? 4 years and 3 grand later.... I have a belt I can finally live with. Stitching is like gravy, it's only great if you make it every day. From Texas but in Bossier City, Louisiana.
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