Contributing Member JLSleather Posted July 5, 2017 Contributing Member Report Posted July 5, 2017 I must be using that crap more these days.. today, I was able to log on fakebook without looking up my password Quote "Observation is 9/10 of the law." IF what you do is something that ANYBODY can do, then don't be surprised when ANYBODY does.
Members Stetson912 Posted July 6, 2017 Members Report Posted July 6, 2017 Color me daft but what is the difference between the curved pancake and a regular pancake? How is the curve accounted for in the pattern/design? I see the backside is curved to fit round the hip a bit better but doesn't a regular pancake do the same? Just wondering is all. I have limited experience haha. Quote
Contributing Member JLSleather Posted July 6, 2017 Author Contributing Member Report Posted July 6, 2017 13 minutes ago, Stetson912 said: doesn't a regular pancake do the same? Nope, sure don't. They bind -- as a rule, binds worse on a slim feller than a big man (sharper angle turn). Most try to alleviate the worst pain by making the front 'wing' longer, but ... this works all the time. Those "pancakes" (regular in your terms) are everywhere, but I find that once a guy tries this he won't go back Front panel is longer than the back, so the curve is built in. As opposed to a "50/50' or 'regular' pancake, where the tabs or 'wings' are pulled into that shape, causing binding on the firearm. Other words, it's natural shape... not twisted into a shape .. thus it retains that position. Advantage is, this fits on the desk, and still fits on the waist.. unlike those "regular" ones that tighten on teh pistol when the belt is tightened, this is the same on or off the belt. Quote "Observation is 9/10 of the law." IF what you do is something that ANYBODY can do, then don't be surprised when ANYBODY does.
Members Stetson912 Posted July 6, 2017 Members Report Posted July 6, 2017 Ahhh, thanks for that. I didn't think of binding. That's just a little bit important I would think haha. So how do you enlarge the front panel? And how do you know it's enough? I suppose you could trace half the back panel and shift it over a certain distance to trace the other half then just connect the two parts? Quote
Contributing Member JLSleather Posted July 6, 2017 Author Contributing Member Report Posted July 6, 2017 (edited) Well, I do my own patterns, so I just kinda "do it".. not really making one from the other. I know it's "enuf" because I test it and alter/adjust the design if needed (it sometimes does need a tweak). Some ass (that's plural, actually) will be in in a minute to swear that what I said isn't true, but it's simple and basic -- pretty sure my Gramma gets it. Take your belt off. Fold it in half lengthwise. Put an apple between the layers. Falls out, right? Now put the apple in there again, and bend the ends of the belt around (hint: the apple doesn't fall - it's trapped by teh front binding on it). I thought I'd do a bit of a "write-up" about this, with some 'tutorial style' pics. But, now I'm thinking no point doing that here where it's fodder for someone with a complex - no point doing it on my site since I'm the only one I'd be telling Edited July 6, 2017 by JLSleather Quote "Observation is 9/10 of the law." IF what you do is something that ANYBODY can do, then don't be surprised when ANYBODY does.
Members Sanch Posted July 6, 2017 Members Report Posted July 6, 2017 21 minutes ago, JLSleather said: Well, I do my own patterns, so I just kinda "do it".. not really making one from the other. I know it's "enuf" because I test it and alter/adjust the design if needed (it sometimes does need a tweak). Some ass (that's plural, actually) will be in in a minute to swear that what I said isn't true, but it's simple and basic -- pretty sure my Gramma gets it. Take your belt off. Fold it in half lengthwise. Put an apple between the layers. Falls out, right? Now put the apple in there again, and bend the ends of the belt around (hint: the apple doesn't fall - it's trapped by teh front binding on it). I thought I'd do a bit of a "write-up" about this, with some 'tutorial style' pics. But, now I'm thinking no point doing that here where it's fodder for someone with a complex - no point doing it on my site since I'm the only one I'd be telling I for one have no complex and I would love to see how you accomplish this is it as simple as making one part of the pancake smaller in relation to the other to achieve the Curve if so I may be able to work that out for myself! If not and there is some sort of magic pixie dust you sprinkle on the leather to get it to shrink please tell us so that we may run out and go searching for some LOL! Seriously though I'm sure the collective would like to see how you accomplished it and would greatly appreciate it if you took the time out to do it! Quote
Contributing Member JLSleather Posted July 6, 2017 Author Contributing Member Report Posted July 6, 2017 I'd be willin' to chip in on some of that dust if'n ya kin find some That could come in handy in a number of places! But yeah -- the outside is made longer than the inside. How much depends on the model of the gun, and maybe even a little on the size of the wearer (if they're very slim or very large). Seems like usually about a inch (ish). I got a pattern layin' here for a LCP.. got about 5/8" difference between front and back. Quote "Observation is 9/10 of the law." IF what you do is something that ANYBODY can do, then don't be surprised when ANYBODY does.
Members Stetson912 Posted July 6, 2017 Members Report Posted July 6, 2017 More of an educated trial and error technique haha. I was just curious. I'm sure if I sat down with a pencil n paper I could figure something out along those lines. I make my own patterns too when I do a holster. I just haven't made many so I'm still learning. Thanks for the insight! Quote
Members Clintock Posted July 6, 2017 Members Report Posted July 6, 2017 (edited) No pic of the front? I for one can vouch for the difference. Made a 50/50 and it pinched when I wore it. Gun fit perfectly while on the night stand. Couldn't pull it out of the holster while wearing it. Got a kit from Jeff and can say without hesitation that the flatter back curved is 100 times better. No matter how much you tighten the belt you can still draw the weapon. Most of the retention is on the front panel instead of 50% on the front 50% on the back. As for myself I'd love to see a tutorial on how to arrive at the proper length to oversize the front panel. Edited July 6, 2017 by Clintock Fat finger syndrome Quote
Members JD62 Posted July 6, 2017 Members Report Posted July 6, 2017 Hay Jeff, I have been to your site several times. The tutorial for holster pattern making is a huge help. I haven't built one I think is good enough to take a pic of but I'm gaining. THANK YOU !!! Quote One day at a time my friends John
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