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Well, I just watched the video in the first post and that is EXACTLY the machine I have! So if the title is correct I have one from around 1890 :jawdropper:!

Thanks for posting it, Constabulary! I had figured (based on the four-digit serial number) it would be from around 1910-1920, but another 20 years older is great. Just shows that back then things were really built to last.

 

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Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery?

Forbid it, Almighty God!

I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!

Patrick Henry, March 23rd 1775

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These machines have been produced in some variants  - please post some pictures of your machine. The early one were green with lots of ornamentation decal. Some even had a drawer poisoned inside the machine casting and not on the stand.

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Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2

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Constabulary, here's the post from three years ago with pics of my machine (and your thread stand ;)):

The drawer on mine is missing, but it used to be on the right side of the stand, under the main part of the head. The two wood guides for it are still there and I want to build a new drawer for it.

 

Black Dogg

Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery?

Forbid it, Almighty God!

I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!

Patrick Henry, March 23rd 1775

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Ha - now I recall you and your machine... sorry :lol:

~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~

Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2

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Yup, that's me :wave:.

By the way, when I watched your vid of the restored machine in action, I noticed that in the beginning you seem to be threading the shuttle the wrong way. According to the manual, the thread comes off the spool, out through the long slit, back over the spool and then out through the center hole in the other side. If you need more tension for the bottom thread, you have to feed the thread back inside through the second hole and out the third again. I guess some shuttles even had five holes for really high tension in extra thick leathers or multiple layers.

Finding that manual was a godsend for me; I had spent hours trying to figure out all kinds of different ways to run the thread but just could not get it to work right.

Another difference between your machine and mine I noticed is the flap covering the threadhook on the back of the arm. Yours swings down to open; on mine it is hinged and swings backwards.

 

Black Dogg

Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery?

Forbid it, Almighty God!

I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!

Patrick Henry, March 23rd 1775

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Black Dogg. 

Can I see some pics of your machine?  I have 5 of them to restore.

glenn

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Shoepatcher,

there's a few pics in the thread I posted three years ago (see above). If you're looking for some close-up shots, let me know and I'll see what I can do.

How did come by FIVE of these, anyway? Did you buy them from private sales or was there a dealership somewhere over here? I didn't think there'd be so many over here; I had figured they were more of a European machine.

 

Black Dogg

Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery?

Forbid it, Almighty God!

I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!

Patrick Henry, March 23rd 1775

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SO very cool!!! I have what I believe is a 17 series.. love it, but finding the needles that work best is tough

I have needles on order from Bob.. 190D Schmetz so far works the best, I have used Groz 190LR.. but they break more .. any suggestions? 

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Couldn't belive what I just saw...you did an amazing job.. So much knowledge and patience goes into this project..I admire that! 

 

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Either System 332 LONG needles or System 88 but 332 LONG has a slightly sticker shaft. So both systems are possible, both are ~ 55mm long in total. I have underlined 332 LONG because there is a system 332 as well (not long) which is 45mm long.

Nice machine by the way - yet the Class 17 is one of the few patchers I have not sewn with. :)

What is the max stitch length this machine can do? My Class 18 was babel to sew phenomenal 8.5mm long stitches.

~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~

Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2

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