Bauer 1919 harness machine

[obsolete]

Can any one tell me anything about my Bauer harness machine. i would like to know years manufactured what size needle can be used thread size presser feet etc. machine is working fine now but would love info and spare parts. Thanks 

[Uwe]

I've never even heard of that brand. Can you please post some pictures? You may know more about the machine than most people on this forum. 

[Wizcrafts]

I found a manual for the Bauer Harness Machine.

Better still, here is a YouTube video somebody posted showing how to thread a 1919 Bauer Harness Stitching Machine.

 

[Wizcrafts]

As regards spare parts, good luck. If fortune smiles on you, you may find that it uses similar bobbins to some other machine from the 20th Century for which parts are still available. These could possibly be from a (Campbell) Randall Lockstitch, or a Landis 3 or 16, all of which use boat shuttles with cylindrical bobbins. Other parts may be made of unobtanium and would need to be custom made.

[Wizcrafts]

There is a chance that the bobbins and needles for the ancient Pearson/BUSM harness stitchers might fit your Bauer stitcher.

[SARK9]

Here is one in the wild:

https://tricities.craigslist.org/art/d/leather-sewing-machine-heavy/6388815167.html

 

-DC

[Uwe]

That is some machine, wow! Unfortunately that threading video appears to be the only bit of documentation available online. I did find an Advertisement for an earlier version of the machine on the last page of the 1909 issue of "Harness"  (the thread tension mechanism is a little different - it only has one tension disc). Sometimes patent application drawings and descriptions can be helpful. 

With a needle that long, there's going to a minimum thickness that makes sense and likely will only be manufactured in a limited size range. Do you know what system needle you have in your machine right now? If not, can you take some measurement like diameter of butt, butt to top of the eye of needle distance, and overall length (ideally in mm). It may narrow down the possible needle system choices. There's only a handful of needle systems that are that long.

I was organizing a few parts bins yesterday and came across a few Landis (I think) parts. The bobbins sure look a lot like the Bauer bobbins, but the shuttle boats are quite different, at least in the thread tension mechanism. 

 

 

[Uwe]

The guy in that Craigslist posting above says he has a manual for it.  What are the chances of him being willing to scan it to PDF for the greater good?

[Uwe]

Just a screenshot and the images from that CL ad referenced above, just  to preserve it for posterity here on LW. Love that pedal drive!

Edited November 21, 2017 by Uwe

[Uwe]

Here's the Patent US822337 about the thread controlling device:

[obsolete]

Wow you guys are great i searched the internet and did not locate the patent  drawings. I have the manual for the machine and did see the YouTube video and send that gentalman a message. hope we can still shed some light on this thing to sews perfectly and would like to keep it around another 100 years.

Thanks again. 

 

[obsolete]

The bobbins do look like the landis is there any way you could measure one so comparison could be made. And would you know of a bobbin winder for those bobbins. 

[obsolete]

Found a video of the Pearson #6 sticher and some photos on line the shuttle looks to be the same as Bauer we might be on to something and on in my manual it states Hempel machine co is the successor to the Bauer.

[Constabulary]

HOLY SMOKES - what a nice chunk of cast iron. But its not a needle feed, right? I guess its a top feed only machine - though I´m not sure. Would like to see some close up pictures.

Edited November 21, 2017 by Constabulary

[Uwe]

9 hours ago, obsolete said:

I have the manual for the machine

Can you please scan the Bauer manual to PDF and post it here? A series of photos would work, too. We can help make the PDF.

Edited November 21, 2017 by Uwe

[Big Sioux Saddlery]

23 hours ago, Uwe said:

That is some machine, wow! Unfortunately that threading video appears to be the only bit of documentation available online. I did find an Advertisement for an earlier version of the machine on the last page of the 1909 issue of "Harness"  (the thread tension mechanism is a little different - it only has one tension disc). Sometimes patent application drawings and descriptions can be helpful. 

With a needle that long, there's going to a minimum thickness that makes sense and likely will only be manufactured in a limited size range. Do you know what system needle you have in your machine right now? If not, can you take some measurement like diameter of butt, butt to top of the eye of needle distance, and overall length (ideally in mm). It may narrow down the possible needle system choices. There's only a handful of needle systems that are that long.

I was organizing a few parts bins yesterday and came across a few Landis (I think) parts. The bobbins sure look a lot like the Bauer bobbins, but the shuttle boats are quite different, at least in the thread tension mechanism. 

 

 

You've got some goodies there, Uwe.  The shuttles on the bottom are Landis One shuttles.  The one on top I believe belongs to a Randall/Campbell machine, as well as the bobbins that are with it.   I love the old Advertisement, btw!

[obsolete]

Schmetz 10 system 331 LR 230 in it now 

[ddushane]

Uwe,  are you going to keep the shuttles for the Landis #1 or sell them, 

Dwayne,