Cylinder Arm vs Flat bed

[garypl]

1 hour ago, Yetibelle said:

I struggled with this question for a few years and went with the CB4500.  Just like you I have a Singer 111w155 that is similar to the Sailrite and it can cover the smaller weight leathers and canvas, but I wanted a machine that could do more.  I run 346 thread in it and it doesn't flinch on a single stitch it runs so smooth I wish I had 2 of them.  I feel if I had gone with the CB3200 with the shorter arm and less clearance I would have wished I got the CB4500.  Plus with @Uwe flat-bed table it converts into an exceptional flat bed machine and I see my Singer 7-31 gathering dust.  So I would recommend getting the base CB4500 with Uwe's custom flat-bed.  I know it seams like a lot more money, however these machines last 100 plus years so it is worth the money.

 

 

That's a nice looking table - how does it attach to the machine?  Do yu remove the standard plate from the cylinder and use what looks to be a built-in plate in the new table?

Gary

[Yetibelle]

Yes, it is very simple.  Here is the video.

 

 

[Brooks125]

On 1/2/2018 at 7:48 AM, Deryk said:

I spoke with Ryan Neele from Cowboy., the CB3200 would handle the heavier leathers, just not less then 2 layers of 3 oz... but that's what I have my sailrite lsz-1 for.. want to talk to Bob From Toledo Ind sewing today if he has any other machine suggestions... maybe get lucky and he has something used that would meet my needs

When I bought my 3200 in 2015, I talked to Cowboy Bob on the phone and asked if he had a USED leather sewing machine.  He immediately said "no".  I thought it was odd that he could, off the top of his head, say he didn't, when they stock thousands of machines.  He told me he gets 3-4 calls a week for just such a critter, and used machines often compare in price to new machines (which they do!).  He suggested and I went with a new machine.  He's great to deal with and threw in a couple pounds of thread as well.  He is a wealth of knowledge, which is probably why he's the guy to talk to if you are west of the MIssissippi.

[Deryk]

Bob wasn't in when I called the other day and I also asked the question about used... hell saving money is always a plus...especially as a hobbyist, not making any money yet off my work.  And the answer was no, and he said when they do they are gone in no time.  But I guess a plus if you ever need to sell it.

[bikermutt07]

Just for consideration, the retailers have confirmed that the cb341 will run the 207 with no issues.

I had asked Alexander (solar machines) in another thread and Cowboy Bob or Ryan Neel replied. Can't remember which.

[ktucci]

On 12/31/2017 at 10:17 PM, Deryk said:

Hello folks, I am starting to look seriously for a machine, hoping to have it by the end of January/beginning of February.  I am a Hobbyist,  I like making leather journal covers, but really want to make leather backpacks and messenger bags and old world style leather duffel bags/weekend away sized bags.  Mostly hand stitching I have been working with oil tanned leather in the 5 oz range but I read I should be using vegtan 7 oz or so...I guess both have their pluses.  I need to keep the budget under 2k.  A few models I have considered are the Cowboy CB3200, and Springfield leather has a Cobra 20 that sounds spec wise similar to the cb3200 but only goes up to 207 size thread.  I guess with the cb3200 and the flat bed attachment would give more options and more thread sizes for the future.  Any other suggestions?  I saw in a posting a person here made a leather and denim backpack on a cb4500 and she said she at a few times had almost half an inch of material under the presserfoot... so I don't want anything too small but can't justify a cb4500 right now lol...maybe once I start making some extra money lol.

Hi!  I going through the same query right now!  Did you decide on a machine & if so where did you purchase from?  

[Fire88]

I have a 3200 and love the machine and have sewn 24-26oz of saddle skirt with it. I’ve run 138 or 207 thread through it with no problems. Just did a sketchbook cover and sewed through approximately 22oz at points with 138 thread with no issues at all. 

The flatbed attachment would’ve been nice to have but it’s not available for the stand I have. So I’ll probably make one.

Edited January 27, 2018 by Fire88