Members Handstitched Posted February 9, 2018 Members Report Posted February 9, 2018 G'Day, Is this of any help ? https://www.manualslib.com/manual/461794/Duerkopp-Adler-291.html#manual I know nothing about these machines, but just wondering if the ' lump in the middle' has something to do with air operated foot lifter ?? I'm sure someone on here will help you, and hopefully it will be a good investment after all . Good luck HS Quote ' I have a very gweat friend in Wome called Biggus Dickus, He has a wife you know, do you know whats she's called? Incontinentia.......Incontinentia Buttocks '
Uwe Posted February 9, 2018 Report Posted February 9, 2018 It looks like you can run the machine on single phase 220V, according to the Durkopp 291 installation manual. Quote Uwe (pronounced "OOH-vuh" ) Links: Videos
Members radrider Posted February 9, 2018 Author Members Report Posted February 9, 2018 Thanks UWE! that is a great find! I will surely try this out.(may need to take a refresher of electricians for dummies though ;P) Quote
bikermutt07 Posted February 9, 2018 Report Posted February 9, 2018 3 hours ago, radrider said: Swap to a 110v and lose all the auto features? My sewing shop seamed to think that was the better route to go, but I do very much prefer an automatic machine at this time, especially if it all works. (ive got an adler 167 and pfaff 545 and 1245 manual setups, but id like this to be an efficient workhorse) I may just be too noob but I couldn't locate a manual foot lift on the machine. The knee lift is air as well. Difficult to find much info on the 291, especially this variant with the big bulge on the bottom/middle of the machine arm, I havn't seen any photos of a machine with the same "bulge". See, I didn't know it had electrical internals in the head. But it looks like @Uwe found the easy button for ya. Quote I'm not paying 80 bucks for a belt!!! It's a strip of leather. How hard could it be? 4 years and 3 grand later.... I have a belt I can finally live with. Stitching is like gravy, it's only great if you make it every day. From Texas but in Bossier City, Louisiana.
Members DrmCa Posted February 9, 2018 Members Report Posted February 9, 2018 Spoke with the Indian guy selling them - machines are not hooked up, "they do not have 220 here" (a red flag: how did they run in production then, if they are just cleaning up shop?) so I'll pass as he is not trustworthy. No 220 in an industrial building is absurd. There is 220 in every building in North America Quote Machines: Mitsubishi DB-130 single needle, Kansai Special RX-9803/UTC coverstitch, Union Special 56300F chainstitch, Pfaff 335-17 cylinder arm walking foot, Bonis Type A fur machine, Huji 43-6 patcher, Singer 99 hand cranked, Juki DDL-553 single needle (for sale)
Members radrider Posted February 9, 2018 Author Members Report Posted February 9, 2018 43 minutes ago, DrmCa said: Spoke with the Indian guy selling them - machines are not hooked up, "they do not have 220 here" (a red flag: how did they run in production then, if they are just cleaning up shop?) so I'll pass as he is not trustworthy. No 220 in an industrial building is absurd. There is 220 in every building in North America trustworthy or not, i spoke with him a fair amount and it seemed like he didn't really know much about sewing machines(misspelled Pfaff and Durkopp in the ad, didnt know what any of the models where). The machines are not testable unless you fix the power cable which seems was "hard" connected before and has been cut. It is a HUGE factory and I walked through most of it to get to the machines. There where very few machines there and what I saw looked nearly brand new. He said they source nearly all of their fabric sewing in china and now do final assembly there. The factory is called Dynasty Furniture. For $180 it was well worth the risk I think, these original Durkopp feet alone are nearly worth that. Time will tell. I for one love a bit of a challenge. Quote
Members CaptnCaptain Posted February 17, 2018 Members Report Posted February 17, 2018 I also picked up one of these machines. As noted in another thread, having problems getting it to run on 220v single phase... But also have had issues with the pneumatic air lines....they're crumbling . I spliced some tubing onto the lines and added T pieces to bypass the Y pieces that fell off. Hope that will work! Confirmed what Radrider said, some of the machines are missing bobbin cases and labels : ( But, the manager in charge of selling them does not appear to be duplicitous in any way. He just doesn't know much about the machines. I assume that the person in charge of them has left the building.... Will post a pic of the missing labels in hopes that someone here has one that can be imaged and then copied. The manual is of no help. Quote
Members R8R Posted February 17, 2018 Members Report Posted February 17, 2018 35 minutes ago, CaptnCaptain said: But also have had issues with the pneumatic air lines....they're crumbling . I spliced some tubing onto the lines and added T pieces to bypass the Y pieces that fell off. Hope that will work! Welcome to the world of industrial machine refurbishment and maintenance! Get cozy with this site: https://www.mcmaster.com/ Quote
Members CaptnCaptain Posted February 17, 2018 Members Report Posted February 17, 2018 Ha ha! Thanks! After several years of buying stuff from McMaster, they finally deemed me worthy of a physical catalog. I don't get one every year...but the stuff doesn't change that much, and website generally works very well, even speedy at times. Many years ago I was a purchasing manager for a boat building company. Usually didn't order much from them as the prices are not the best for frequently used items. But, occasionally we would use them. Once I ordered some weird tapping bit that the shop needed, then realized a minute or so later that I'd ordered the one on the next line down (of the catalogs very small print). Called them back to change the order. They said, "good thing you called back so soon, your part was just about to leave the building". The building is massive, with a fleet of UPS trucks lining up outside. As soon as one is full, the next pulls up. Although the warehouse was about an hour's drive from our company, if I placed an order by 9AM, we would get it with our REGULAR UPS delivery at around 11AM. So we had to pay a couple extra bucks for stuff over a specialty wholesaler...but the crew in the shop could keep working, and have the tools and equipment FAST! So, if I need one or two of something, or something quick, I use them. If one needs a big quantity, then best to search around, the savings do add up. Ah the joys of fixing what Durkopp Adler's service rep referred to as "an obsolete machine". Hey, obsolete to him... Quote
Members Mechanic Posted February 17, 2018 Members Report Posted February 17, 2018 (edited) I doubt the internal controls are actually 3phase. They probably grab one leg for 120v or two for 240v. Once you separate them from the motor, it should be fairly easy to use a VFD to run the motor. (Variable Frequency Drive) For about $250ish, you can get a drive that takes 240v single phase and spits out three phase. I use one on my vertical mill (very large burnisher :D) and it also gives me speed control. You may be able to just set it for 100% and not worry about the internal machine controls? There are possibly compatibility issues, I would talk to tech support before going this route. https://www.tecowestinghouse.com/products/Drives/fm50.html Edited February 17, 2018 by Mechanic Quote
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