Members CaptnCaptain Posted February 11, 2018 Members Report Posted February 11, 2018 Hi everyone, Just a heads up for anyone looking for a walking foot industrial machine. I found a listing on Kijiji (Canada), and traveled there to pick up one of the 22 (twenty two) industrial machines that the company is selling. The price that they are asking is $200 cdn. Note: I have NO financial interest in these transactions. I'm posting the information as a potential connection for the members of these forums (who have given me much good and valuable information). So, here's the scoop: The machines are mostly Durkopp 291 walking foot units (there were also two Pfaff units there) They are 3 phase machines running at 220v (60 cycles). They require a pneumatic line to operate the foot lift, and some other functions. There are no manuals. The operators of these machines are no longer at the factory.... There is no plug on the end of the cord (snipped off, probably were hard wired into the plant's electrical system). According to Naresh (the manager who was my contact, these were all in running condition when removed from service). One of the machines I looked at was missing the bobbin top (and parts for these are EXPENSIVE!) Inspect carefully for any missing bits! I've gotten the one I purchased home and am cleaning it up and getting her going again. I'm currently waiting on a rotary phase converter ($300 US, with shipping). A harbor you know who cheapo compressor will provide air (I hope). Other pieces I've ordered: bobbins (they used preloaded bobbins), and a selection of needles. If you are interested in the machines, call or text Naresh : +1 (647) 459-0110, tell him that Marty gave you his contact info. The machines are located at: Dynasty Furniture Manufacturing, Ltd. 6830 Columbus Rd, Mississauga, ON L5T 2G1, Canada Other notes: If crossing from the US like I did, DON'T use the "Rainbow Bridge". The border guard was VERY grumpy about me using that crossing for a business related trip. He gave me a warning and said I could be fined. Nice welcome back to the US of A! The third pic is of the machine I bought, after some cleaning. Anyone who knows anything about the control modules, please let me know. Have not found anything online about those yet. The module I have says "Durkopp v720" on the front, and "Dz101" on the back. Will post this question in a more appropriate forum eventually.
Uwe Posted February 11, 2018 Report Posted February 11, 2018 Congratulations on your new acquisition! That control panel is really an EFKA V720 with a Durkopp Adler logo on it. Here's the manual for the Efka V720 control panel: EN_BA_V720_7_7__210995.pdf Uwe (pronounced "OOH-vuh" ) Links: Videos
Members CaptnCaptain Posted February 11, 2018 Author Members Report Posted February 11, 2018 (edited) Thanks Uwe! Have the manual now...whether I understand it is another matter....Will take a bit to cogitate upon it...my familiarity with the terms is limited, which is making it more difficult to decipher. Luckily had help from my brother to unload the head out of my truck and into the shop. Whew! There is a lot of metal there! I'm not planning any multiple item production sewing projects for awhile (just big boat canvas pieces), and will be VERY happy if I can just get the machine up and running. There are little pneumatic lines that run up into the machine. Will need to replace some or all of them, as the plastic seems to have reached it's age limit (one little Y broke off), and the connection to the air/oil metering unit also snapped off (that one was on a swaged connection, of an undetermined thread size fitting). Edited February 11, 2018 by CaptnCaptain
Mark842 Posted February 11, 2018 Report Posted February 11, 2018 Do you have a link to the listing for these? I'm interested but what have to have it shipped. Likely still be worth it at this price. I did a search on Kijiji for them and came up empty.
Uwe Posted February 11, 2018 Report Posted February 11, 2018 It's Kijiji Ad ID: 1331543311 I'd be surprised if they wanted to bother with shipping. Uwe (pronounced "OOH-vuh" ) Links: Videos
Rockoboy Posted February 11, 2018 Report Posted February 11, 2018 3 hours ago, Uwe said: I'd be surprised if they wanted to bother with shipping. If they do offer shipping, I am betting it will come unwrapped and bouncing around inside its very own crate or cardboard box. Kindest regards Brian "Whether you think you can or whether you think you can't, you are right" Henry Ford Machines: Singer 201p, Kennedy, Singer 31K20, Singer 66K16 ("boat anchor" condition), Protex TY8B Cylinder Arm (Consew 227r copy), Unbranded Walking Foot (Sailrite LSV-1 copy)
Members radrider Posted February 12, 2018 Members Report Posted February 12, 2018 Do not buy sight unseen! many are missing important parts you will need to go over the machines there yourself. I was the first there and grabbed 2 of the nicer ones but there was still plenty of "good" ones.
Members radrider Posted February 12, 2018 Members Report Posted February 12, 2018 @CaptnCaptain check my latest thread about converting without a converter :D
Members CaptnCaptain Posted February 17, 2018 Author Members Report Posted February 17, 2018 So, tried running the machine at 220v single phase...motor hummed but no go....(and a mild smell of electrical magic escaping ) Looks like I'm going to try a static phase converter...(found one to hopefully pickup this weekend off craigslist). Here's a couple pics of the motor/electronic wiring connection. I'd disconnected the red wire (L3), and also disconnected the electronics for a motor test. I also took the belt off the pulley for least resistance on the motor.
480volt Posted February 17, 2018 Report Posted February 17, 2018 10 hours ago, CaptnCaptain said: So, tried running the machine at 220v single phase...motor hummed but no go....(and a mild smell of electrical magic escaping ) Three-phase motors cannot, will not, start themselves without something on the third leg. A static converter is just a capacitor that applies a voltage on L3 that is phase-shifted enough to get the motor started. It doesn’t really contribute much to the output of the motor, hence the de-rating in output. As you likely already know, any single-phase on-board accessories must be connected to the terminals fed from line voltage, not the one fed from the capacitor.
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