Contributing Member JLSleather Posted April 17, 2018 Contributing Member Report Posted April 17, 2018 One more This will show how much difference you can get using the same design, same basic tools, just by putting the "BOP" in the wrong place. Somebody sent me this pic of a purse strap (bottom) and wanted another set made. Note how the tooling was "bopped" DOWN where it should have been UP, and the difference that makes. At their request, I used the same tools - with the exception of adding the "stop" tool to the ends of the stems. Quote "Observation is 9/10 of the law." IF what you do is something that ANYBODY can do, then don't be surprised when ANYBODY does.
Members kseidel Posted April 17, 2018 Members Report Posted April 17, 2018 You are practicing trying to learn how to carve and stamp the leather, without a good understanding of what you want as a finished look. I would encourage you to draw or trace the pattern on paper, and then shade in all of the details with your pencil. Black out the background, shade, draw all of the veins and mule tracks, etc, and draw in the finish cuts. Be as precise as you can. Then when you stamp in leather, try to duplicate what you have drawn as precisely as possible. What you are doing now is very haphazzard and make-it-up as you go, without a specific plan, and that shows in your finished work. Quote Keith Seidel Seidel's Saddlery www.seidelsaddlery.com
Members Stetson912 Posted April 17, 2018 Author Members Report Posted April 17, 2018 @kseidel, that's a good idea. I will have to take a pattern and do that. You are right I don't have a go to plan. I just go for it. And while it's an improvement it's not great either. I will have to come up with a solid plan. Quote
Members Stetson912 Posted April 17, 2018 Author Members Report Posted April 17, 2018 @kseidel, is this what you meant? I think I like this process. At least for now. It helps me visualize the final piece and how to get there. My drawing is horrible but it gets the job done. This is a Don Gonzalez pattern available on his site. But if this is not allowed please remove. It is a print out, I just added the shading and textures etc. The bevel shading is pretty light on here but I did add it. Let me know if you see anything that should be changed. Thanks again for the help. Quote
terrymac Posted April 17, 2018 Report Posted April 17, 2018 Barry King sells a packet of belt patterns done by Bill Gardner, one of the godfathers of the Sheridan style carving. Well worth the money. They were are tooled by Clinton Fay, and include a complete list of the Barry King tools used. Good luck Terry Quote
Contributing Member JLSleather Posted April 17, 2018 Contributing Member Report Posted April 17, 2018 Quote "Observation is 9/10 of the law." IF what you do is something that ANYBODY can do, then don't be surprised when ANYBODY does.
Members Stetson912 Posted April 18, 2018 Author Members Report Posted April 18, 2018 Haha thanks Jeff. I had you in mind when I went to creating my plan. Lol Quote
Members kseidel Posted April 19, 2018 Members Report Posted April 19, 2018 On 4/17/2018 at 3:26 PM, Stetson912 said: @kseidel, is this what you meant? I think I like this process. At least for now. It helps me visualize the final piece and how to get there. My drawing is horrible but it gets the job done. This is a don't Gonzalez pattern available on his site. But if this is not allowed please remove. It is a print out, I just added the shading and texcures ect. The bevel shading is pretty light on here but I did add it. Let me know if you see anything that should be changed. Thanks again for the help. Good job! Now you are closer to having a plan and purpose for the look you are trying to make with the tools you are using. Draw in your finish cuts before you cut them in the leather. It is most profitable to practice right and learn the right way. Much harder to un-learn bad practices. As you go forward, try to make each cut and stamp perfect... exactly where and how you want. Practice perfection! Good luck! Keith Quote Keith Seidel Seidel's Saddlery www.seidelsaddlery.com
Members Stetson912 Posted April 20, 2018 Author Members Report Posted April 20, 2018 Well, I used my plan and tried it again. Took into account everyone's advice too. Best as I could remember. Here it is. Quote
Rockoboy Posted April 21, 2018 Report Posted April 21, 2018 You are definitely improving. I don't mind the cuts you made on the scrolls instead of using a veiner, but I do think the veiner looks better. Quote Kindest regards Brian "Whether you think you can or whether you think you can't, you are right" Henry Ford Machines: Singer 201p, Kennedy, Singer 31K20, Singer 66K16 ("boat anchor" condition), Protex TY8B Cylinder Arm (Consew 227r copy), Unbranded Walking Foot (Sailrite LSV-1 copy)
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