khill Report post Posted May 26, 2018 Newbie to all this so am in need of basic info. Have searched and searched but cannot find anything regarding how to measure for a ranger belt. Have seen how to fit a reg. belt but nothing on how much to add for the extra on a ranger. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
koreric75 Report post Posted May 26, 2018 There's a pinned post here somewhere for this, I just saw it a couple weeks ago try Google search with site:leatherworker.net then your search words like ranger belt sizing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dwight Report post Posted May 26, 2018 OK, . . . I'll get in here, . . . A 38 inch belt goes around a 38 inch waist if it is a gun belt, . . . a web belt, . . . a garter belt, . . . or a ranger belt. I must have missed something in the question, . . . and I've made all but the garter belt, . . . May God bless, Dwight Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alpha2 Report post Posted May 26, 2018 If a customer measures an existing belt from the end of the buckle, to the most used hole, and gives you that dimension, it doesn't take into account the additional circumference due to the additional layers of leather in a Range belt. The part that goes into the inside loop behind the buckle, and the fact that the buckle tab and billet part are outside of the main belt leather. The question is, how much to add to the single layer belt dimension? The best method would be to have the customer measure an existing RANGER belt. I made myself a Ranger belt with the Stohlman belt book, and measured an existing plain belt for the dimension. I had to remove the billet part and make another one that was longer to make it fit. Jeff Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
khill Report post Posted May 26, 2018 Ok will try to ask again . For a waist measurement of 38 inches how long will the main strap be before you add billets ? Yes it would be easy if they already owned a ranger but they don't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
koreric75 Report post Posted May 26, 2018 2 hours ago, khill said: Ok will try to ask again . For a waist measurement of 38 inches how long will the main strap be before you add billets ? Yes it would be easy if they already owned a ranger but they don't. ok, took a bit of googling but found it again, Ranger_Belt_Instructions 1&2 pattern & instructions in .pdf format... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dwight Report post Posted May 27, 2018 3 hours ago, khill said: Ok will try to ask again . For a waist measurement of 38 inches how long will the main strap be before you add billets ? Yes it would be easy if they already owned a ranger but they don't. OK, . . . sorry for the confusion, . . . I just couldn't wrap my head around the question. I did a 5 hour drive today, . . . too many white lines, . . . grey matter gets confused easily. My 38 inch ranger belt has a back side of 43 inches long. Look at the pictures and you'll see how I do it. Not everyone does it this way, . . . but not everyone makes pie crust like I do, and I like both my belts and my pie crusts. The back picture is just that, . . . the back of the belt. The same for the front picture, . . . The buckle end you can see it overlaps the end of the belt just the width of the leading edge of the buckle, . . . and the billet also overlaps the leading edge of the main belt piece. But from inside of the edge of the buckle to that center hole, . . . is 37 1/2 inches (God only knows what happened to the other 1/2 inch), . . . and that is where my target is for all my belts. You can also see that I give my customers 7 holes instead of 5, . . . gives em a bit of pizza room if they need it, . . . or CCW space if they need that. That back piece I measured to be sure, . . . it is 43 inches long. Hope this helps. May God bless, Dwight Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
khill Report post Posted May 27, 2018 Thank you Dwight that is exactly what I needed to know take the measurement and add 5 inches. Newbie on a roll now . Hopefully to complete one worthy of posting a picture or two Thanks Murray Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dwight Report post Posted May 27, 2018 9 hours ago, khill said: Thank you Dwight that is exactly what I needed to know take the measurement and add 5 inches. Newbie on a roll now . Hopefully to complete one worthy of posting a picture or two Thanks Murray Don't forget, . . . it is the placement and design of both the buckle end and the tongue that will ultimately make or break that belt. Make all the parts and pieces, . . . then lay them down on each other in their respective places, . . . do a measurement fit check before you start the sewing routine. Otherwise you can start out with the right pieces for say a 40 inch belt, . . . wind up with a 36 or a 44, . . . just by putting them in the wrong place. Have fun though, . . . and don't get too serious about this leather stuff, . . . keep it fun and it is a whole lot more exciting. May God bless, Dwight Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alpha2 Report post Posted May 27, 2018 Thanks, Dwight! Jeff Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JLSleather Report post Posted May 27, 2018 12 hours ago, Dwight said: That looks like the "tab" folds under the keeper loop, which would make for a tad more bulk (changing the size slightly). I generally cut the [vertical] slot and run it through, but that might not be good for a billet so close to the strap width (weakening it too much). I'm fixin' ta do a pdf on this belt size thing, since it comes up over and over for YEARS. Have to figure out some way to advertise it and calculate how to price it .. WAIT, that sounds like far too much work -- easier to just post the thing and call it FREE. Ranger belts aren't nearly as popular as they once were, at least not round here. So I haven't made one in over a year - not counting "gun belts" and "buscadero" belts. This one a good while back - later went in and dyed the inside of the holes black. I hate that when the holes are not matching - this was done to make that point. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
khill Report post Posted May 27, 2018 Beautiful belt . It appears to be lined . What did you line it with and what weight is the liner and strap ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JLSleather Report post Posted May 27, 2018 (edited) 13 minutes ago, khill said: Beautiful belt . It appears to be lined . What did you line it with and what weight is the liner and strap ? 7/8 oz strap and billets. Belt is also 7/8, then lined with 3/4 tooling leather, billets are not lined (stitching on loops and billets is decorative). Edited May 27, 2018 by JLSleather Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
khill Report post Posted May 27, 2018 I assume you glue the liner to the strap then stitch . Do you put any sort of finish /sealer on the liner ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dwight Report post Posted May 27, 2018 1 hour ago, khill said: I assume you glue the liner to the strap then stitch . Do you put any sort of finish /sealer on the liner ? FWIW, . . . yes, . . . Resolene is my preferred belt finish. Yes, . . . the liner and blank on that particular brown belt are both 5/6, . . . all stitching of the tongue and buckle keeper done, . . . then the inside and outside are stitched together. My belt keeper folds back between the two layers, . . . and is held by the Chicago screw that is visible in the buckle end of the pictures. I do that mostly so that if something happens to the buckle or if it needs changed, . . . it's a simple and easy job. All I did was take apart a ranger belt I had worn for 20 or so years, . . . make patterns from the pieces, . . . and make my new one. There are many different ways to do them, . . . that's just my way. May God bless, Dwight Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
