Members chrisash Posted August 14, 2018 Members Report Posted August 14, 2018 (edited) I have just brought a singer 29k for £95 so seemed like a good buy and far cheaper than ebay prices Main use will be on belts as pattern so nothing extra tough Been wondering about thread , most posts indicate tex92 or even Tex 138 bonded nylon or polyester, but i was wondering what thread they used prior to the nylon and polyester being available both material and size Being delivered later today so will respond with images then Edited August 14, 2018 by chrisash Quote Mi omputer is ot ood at speeling , it's not me
Members Constabulary Posted August 14, 2018 Members Report Posted August 14, 2018 92 or at max. 138 makes sense. However - I have seen Adler 30-1 setup for 207 thread (they are using the same shuttle as the 29K so no big difference technically) but it depends on the needle plate (needle hole in particular) and if the thread hole in the shuttle is wide enough. BUT 207 really make no sense for these machines because of the very small capacity of the bobbin. These machines are designed for repair work and not for producing leather goods. Prior polyester and nylon cotton and linen thread have been used. Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
Moderator Wizcrafts Posted August 14, 2018 Moderator Report Posted August 14, 2018 They used really thin 3 cord glazed linen thread. I have some of this thread in my shop on a mini spool. It is thinner than the 3 cord linen thread from Barbour. I'm guessing between #69 and #92 in diameter. Could be Tex 80. Quote Posted IMHO, by Wiz My current crop of sewing machines: Cowboy CB4500, Singer 107w3, Singer 139w109, Singer 168G101, Singer 29k71, Singer 31-15, Singer 111w103, Singer 211G156, Adler 30-7 on power stand, Techsew 2700, Fortuna power skiver and a Pfaff 4 thread 2 needle serger.
Members chrisash Posted August 14, 2018 Author Members Report Posted August 14, 2018 OK here is the images, its a 29K53 model, only thing that seems to be missing is the needles so any help there would be appreciated as old posts give various answers the bobbin looks very small and I cannot tell what spare ones to buy, is there a way to tell Quote Mi omputer is ot ood at speeling , it's not me
Members Constabulary Posted August 14, 2018 Members Report Posted August 14, 2018 Not a too bad choice - the 29K5x series is very similar to the later 29K7x series - major difference it the gear box - yours has a fixed horn and "drop out" gear box with very fine teeth pinions - no replacement parts are available for this gear box, the pinions of the 29K7x series DO NOT FIT (so be careful when you remove the gear box for cleaning - do not loose or damage the pinions!!!). Compared with the 29K51 your machine has a slightly narrower horn tip - everything else is the same as on the 29K51. The head is almost the same as from the 29K7x series and almost all parts for the head are available from College Sewing in the UK. Only difference that I recall is that the needle bar driving lever is pinned on your machine - the 29K7x series levers are not pinned... that's at least what I recall. You can get the bobbins from College sewing too: https://www.college-sewing.co.uk/store/Singer29K,29USewingMachineParts If you cannot find a manual you can use the 29K71 manual - you will notice the difference but threading, bobbin winding and so forth are all the same. Singer 29K71, 29K72, 29K73.pdf Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
Members Constabulary Posted August 14, 2018 Members Report Posted August 14, 2018 regarding needle - you can use 29x3 / 29x4 (same as 332) - or - 135x16 / 135x17 needles. Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
Members chrisash Posted August 14, 2018 Author Members Report Posted August 14, 2018 (edited) Hi Constabulary That's a great help, it looks like i have quite a lot to do, as expected it was bone dry but with a good oiling it runs very smooth, apparently it came from a shoe repairer of two generations who retired and it looks like its been well looked after as the old guys used to do even a leather patch under the foot. I am also under first option to buy his tools if his son does not want them. if it happens then i will take my pick and then offer the rest on this forum Thanks once again, it was built in 1924 only 22 years before me PS what size 29x4 do you recommend for ~92 or ~138 polyester/nylon I assume 4 is leather point Edited August 14, 2018 by chrisash added needle Quote Mi omputer is ot ood at speeling , it's not me
Members Constabulary Posted August 14, 2018 Members Report Posted August 14, 2018 Toledo sewing machines has a nice needle / thread chart: https://www.tolindsewmach.com/thread-chart.html Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
Members chrisash Posted August 14, 2018 Author Members Report Posted August 14, 2018 Gone with the 29x4 19, 22 for the #92 & #138 Thanks again Quote Mi omputer is ot ood at speeling , it's not me
Members Matt S Posted August 14, 2018 Members Report Posted August 14, 2018 Nice machine @chrisash -- she's a beaut. I'm looking forward to seeing her run! V sizes like 92 or 138 aren't really used much in the UK. Most thread is sold by TKT number. The chart Constabulary linked to is really great. V92 is equivalent to TKT30 and V138 is equivalent to TKT20. Quote
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