Noggin Report post Posted October 2, 2018 Found an old wooden stool i used to sit on when i was a wee boy. Leather top shows 3 sailing ships from Admiral Nelson’s time in the leather top. A name is signed in the leather either Lavanga or Ravanga and wondered if anyone knew anything about the origins Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Riem Report post Posted October 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Noggin said: Found an old wooden stool i used to sit on when i was a wee boy. Leather top shows 3 sailing ships from Admiral Nelson’s time in the leather top. A name is signed in the leather either Lavanga or Ravanga and wondered if anyone knew anything about the origins Could you post a photo please? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Noggin Report post Posted October 4, 2018 Not the best at posting pics on the internet I am afraid but I will try Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikesc Report post Posted October 4, 2018 Nina, Pinta, Santa Maria ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark842 Report post Posted October 4, 2018 I'd take that to an antique dealer that specializes in furniture...does the antique roadshow ever come out there? You might be the next millionaire... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikesc Report post Posted October 4, 2018 (edited) Antiques Roadshow was originally British..Arthur Negus.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Negus The ships are too old to be from the time of Nelson..and have the red cross on the sails..the image is the same as the most common images of the Nina, Pinta, Santa Maria..of the 1st voyage of Christopher Columbus.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Columbus Images of the Nina, Pinta, Santa Maria..https://lite.qwant.com/?q=Nina%20pinta%20santa%20maria&t=images Edited October 4, 2018 by mikesc Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Noggin Report post Posted October 12, 2018 The English flag (St George) is a Red Cross on a White background and they appear to be involved in a battle and as we know the English were always fighting someone!!LOL However I will take on board your knowledge of the Nina,Pinta and Santa Maria Mike!! As for the Antiques Roadshow,yes Mark it sometimes comes to Scotland but mostly like everything else in Britain it is mainly in England...appreciate your comment but not holding my breath at being the world’s next millionaire. That said I am in Las Vegas this November so if the stool doesn’t make me a millionaire maybe everything I own on Zero may just do it Regards to ALL of you for taking the time to answer .....from Scotland Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikesc Report post Posted October 12, 2018 Is n't "zero" the one where the house wins ?..I should know, having lived in Cannes and other parts of the Côte d'Azur where they have casinos, and even here in Brittany I'm only 4 kms from another, but have never set foot in one anywhere..Idea just does not appeal at all.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fredk Report post Posted October 12, 2018 The cross of St. George is an equal armed cross. The English never carried the cross on the sails, at any time. Both the Spanish and Portuguese carried a cross on the sails. The Spanish used a red equal armed cross pattee outlined in gold, the Portuguese Cross of Christ is a red voided equal and straight armed cross pattee, used post 1313 I think the design is just a fantasy design using stereotypical elements, eg the ships are of a style of late 18th C 3rd rate ships. Too many sails for the actual N, P, S/M but not for a stereotypical drawing of them Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Noggin Report post Posted October 19, 2018 Thanks for that info Fred,BUT do you have any idea who signed the leather,where they were from or what period the stool may be from? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrisash Report post Posted October 19, 2018 (edited) Thats harder than sorting out the fact and fiction of your mr Wallace guy in Brave Heart Edited October 19, 2018 by chrisash Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fredk Report post Posted October 19, 2018 2 hours ago, Noggin said: Thanks for that info Fred,BUT do you have any idea who signed the leather,where they were from or what period the stool may be from? The name has an Italian thing about it. As you are in Scotland I would assess that it was done by a local Italian in Scotland. For those who do not know; Scotland and Northern Ireland became home for very many Italians. The rivets/upholstery nails around the edge are rather like the type and in position typical of the 1920s & 30s Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Noggin Report post Posted January 6, 2019 (edited) On 10/19/2018 at 5:50 AM, chrisash said: Thats harder than sorting out the fact and fiction of your mr Wallace guy in Brave Heart That’s because an Ozzie from Hollywood got involved Edited February 28, 2023 by Northmount removed multiple copies of quote Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisanclark Report post Posted May 24, 2023 It is possible that this stool was created as a commemorative item for someone connected to Admiral Nelson or his era of naval history. Alternatively, it could have been made as a decorative furnishing for a home or business with an interest in nautical themes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sheilajeanne Report post Posted June 7, 2023 (edited) I have a suggestion for tracking down the name. I've been researching my family tree and have found that old address books are often available online. It would seem the artist of the stool must have lived locally. See if you can get a better idea of when the stool was made, then check the local address books for that name. Most old books have a business section - what modern people would call 'The Yellow Pages', and the name may be listed there under leather goods or saddle and harness makers. Edited June 7, 2023 by Sheilajeanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alsopp Report post Posted June 30, 2023 I apologize, but I cannot provide information about the origin of the name "Lavanga" or "Ravanga. Perhaps these names have a special meaning for a particular culture, family, or individual. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites