aroh99 Report post Posted October 12, 2018 (edited) Can anyone tell me the difference between these needles? I bought them both at the leather machine company. I make 16 oz belts and use 207 thread. One of the needles is really sharp and pointy and the other one is rounded. Not sure which i should be using for my belts. Any advice? Edited October 12, 2018 by aroh99 Picture Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ScoobyNewbie Report post Posted October 12, 2018 Sharp, if your hand isn’t going to be in the way, is best, I would think. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Sioux Saddlery Report post Posted October 12, 2018 The 794S denotes "S" point, or spear point, and is for leather. I believe the 7x3 is a round point for nylon and other textiles. You COULD use it for leather, but it would produce an unattractive-looking stitch. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aroh99 Report post Posted October 12, 2018 49 minutes ago, Big Sioux Saddlery said: The 794S denotes "S" point, or spear point, and is for leather. I believe the 7x3 is a round point for nylon and other textiles. You COULD use it for leather, but it would produce an unattractive-looking stitch. Hello Big Sioux Saddlery the 7x3 is actually the really sharp pointy needle. the 794S is more rounded. they both seem to work fine, I just wanted to know which needle I should be using since I am sewing through 16 oz of thick leather. I not to familiar with needles. I have read other topics and have some what of an understand of the needle system. These are the only 2 different needles leather machine company offers for my cobra class 4. Is there a specific needle I should be using to make my belts? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
garypl Report post Posted October 12, 2018 4 minutes ago, aroh99 said: Hello Big Sioux Saddlery the 7x3 is actually the really sharp pointy needle. the 794S is more rounded. they both seem to work fine, I just wanted to know which needle I should be using since I am sewing through 16 oz of thick leather. I not to familiar with needles. I have read other topics and have some what of an understand of the needle system. These are the only 2 different needles leather machine company offers for my cobra class 4. Is there a specific needle I should be using to make my belts? I would just call Leather Machine Company and ask them about the needles - they sold them to you and they must have had a reason for selecting these needles. There are many types of needles available - here is a link showing types of points: https://www.groz-beckert.com/mm/media/en/web/pdf/Point_styles_for_leather_processing.pdf Gary Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Northmount Report post Posted October 12, 2018 @aroh99 Moved your post to leather sewing machines. Tom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Sioux Saddlery Report post Posted October 12, 2018 The 7x3 will have a very sharp point, but will make a round hole, not at all an attractive stitch for leather. The S point needle cuts more of a slit in the leather, which makes a better looking stitch in leather. The S points are not recommended for nylon, because they are more apt to cut the fibers than a sharp round point needle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites