Members Dunluce Posted December 5, 2018 Members Report Posted December 5, 2018 I came across Black Mountains Leather recently. They have some nice looking tools and but I don’t know anything about them (the site is very sparse on words and descriptions). I am wondering if anyone out there have used them or any of their tools, particularly their pricking irons. You can find them at https://www.blackmountainsleather.com/ Quote
Members ScoobyNewbie Posted December 6, 2018 Members Report Posted December 6, 2018 Those look very cool and the prices don’t look bad either. Quote
bermudahwin Posted December 6, 2018 Report Posted December 6, 2018 They seem to be in Canada from the Domain details, but I cannot verify anything else about location, so even though it looks good, I will not use them. (a previous life was spent investigating storefront fraud on major sales websites, so I may be more conservative than most) Harry Quote No longer following it.
Moderator immiketoo Posted December 6, 2018 Moderator Report Posted December 6, 2018 That would be a hard pass from me as well. I can find all of those from makers I know and trust for the same or better prices. Much of that looks like rebranded Chinese stuff from Kevin Lee. Quote Learnleather.com
Members Dunluce Posted December 6, 2018 Author Members Report Posted December 6, 2018 I would be surprised if they were fraudulent as the way I came across them was in the recent edition of 'Waxing the Thread' magazine and that they have an active Facebook site. That said the website does not fill me with confidence. Even if it is rebranded (quality) Chinese stuff I wouldn't mind as sometimes the cheaper price doesn't look so cheap once the import tax is added. Quote
bermudahwin Posted December 6, 2018 Report Posted December 6, 2018 Please, Black Mountains Leather, PM me, and let me be happy, until then Harry says Kind of a rant warning. I AM MAKING NO ACCUSATIONS AGAINST ANYONE. As a business owner I am responsible to know the source of anything I buy, and (within parameters) the details and locations of my customers. This is a worldwide requirement to prevent money laundering activities. I have to become COMFORTABLE that anyone with whom we trade is sound, I do not have to prove or verify this, just be able to gain comfort. Therefore if all I can find is a website that does not work properly, with absolutely no details as to the address of the business, nor the owners, and the contact is purely an email address, I cannot gain comfort. Others may be able to, but I cannot. As I said above "a previous life was spent investigating storefront fraud on major sales websites, so I may be more conservative than most". I also regulated Insurance companies that sometimes did not stand up to scrutiny and ! dealt with cross border financial compliance trying to stop people who were avoiding taxes or funding terrorism so I know it is harder fo me to gain comfort than others. Ever wondered why so many ebay, Amazon, Wish, etc storefronts use the same photographs and prices for the same items? They may be fine, but there MAY BE a scam going on. If a holding co in the far east sells through one store it may breach tax limits and have to pay taxes, but if 10 employees set up stores and sells 1/10th of the owners total in the EU, none of them will breach a taxation limit, whereas the owner would have... who is paying the taxes? None of them. That is money fraud. NOW FOR THE KICKER If I trade with them and have a resonable suspicion that this is going on, I am then facilitating financial crime! Which is why I find it harder to get comfortable with faceless companies. Sorry for the rant, but good websites have a contact address and phone number, its not much to ask. Quote No longer following it.
Moderator immiketoo Posted December 6, 2018 Moderator Report Posted December 6, 2018 34 minutes ago, Dunluce said: I would be surprised if they were fraudulent as the way I came across them was in the recent edition of 'Waxing the Thread' magazine and that they have an active Facebook site. That said the website does not fill me with confidence. Even if it is rebranded (quality) Chinese stuff I wouldn't mind as sometimes the cheaper price doesn't look so cheap once the import tax is added. I'm not suggesting they are fraudulent, just that there are many other vendors with established customer service Quote Learnleather.com
bermudahwin Posted December 6, 2018 Report Posted December 6, 2018 Just now, immiketoo said: I'm not suggesting they are fraudulent, just that there are many other vendors with established customer service Yeah, thats what I meant Quote No longer following it.
Members Dunluce Posted December 6, 2018 Author Members Report Posted December 6, 2018 Hmmm, apologies if it was felt that I implied something. I didn’t mean to. Quote
bermudahwin Posted December 6, 2018 Report Posted December 6, 2018 (edited) Nah, been in financial regulation tooooo long. so I got touchy. sorry. H Edited December 6, 2018 by hwinbermuda Quote No longer following it.
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