fiftycrushplan Report post Posted December 9, 2018 Hey guys this is my first attempt at tooling I think if I perfected the beveling around the image it would really make the image pop out any tips would be great thanks! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ScoobyNewbie Report post Posted December 10, 2018 (edited) I think it looks very authentic. Good job! Now do another one in 6 months time and I guaranty it will be even better. Is it a buckle, or a piece of art? I can’t tell the dimensions. Again, good job! Edited December 10, 2018 by ScoobyNewbie Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fiftycrushplan Report post Posted December 10, 2018 32 minutes ago, ScoobyNewbie said: I think it looks very authentic. Good job! Now do another one in 6 months time and I guaranty it will be even better. Is it a buckle, or a piece of art? I can’t tell the dimensions. Again, good job! It is a pece of art. I just watched a youtube video and I should of used antique stain for the tooling part. Do you recommend any? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sceaden Report post Posted December 10, 2018 Nice work! Yes, almost any tooling work is best with antiquing to help the details pop. I would recommend doing a little deeper beveling around the outside of the serpent with less aggressive backgrounding to create a harder line. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAlbinoYeti Report post Posted December 10, 2018 Feiblings antique gels work good for me Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
immiketoo Report post Posted December 10, 2018 For your first attempt tooling, you did a great job. So much of tooling comes with experience and feel, which will come with time, but here are a few pointers. On any kind of carving other than floral carving, but especially with any kind of figure carving, look into getting a figure beveler. This will make that pop you're looking for. I have put a few examples below to show how a figure beveler can separate the background from the carving. Next, the transitions on any viking or Celtic design where one part goes under another need to have smooth bevel transitions so it looks like a natural flow as opposed to steps down and under then back up. Again, a figure beveler will help, but you can also smooth the transition using a modeling spoon. Another analogy is that steep beveling makes things look like they have been pushed down into a pillow, whereas a figure beveler or spoon makes them look like they have been place on top of the leather. If you're using antique to create contrast in your carving, checkered tools will help hold the antique and give darker areas to help pull the smooth areas to the front visually. Figure bevelers are generally smooth though. In Pic one, you can see the area around the hair is smooth except for the lines for the branches. The figure beveler pushes down the leather smoothly and makes your art stand out. In the second pic, you can see our the branches are behind the birds and Odin, but above the background. Also you can see the transitions on the celtic weave. Hope this helps. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fiftycrushplan Report post Posted December 10, 2018 Wow, Thanks guys! Figure beveler? I will pick one up. I am going to get some antique gel stain as well. After gel stain is it best to do a 50/50 water resolene seal or should I do something different? Thanks again guys. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
immiketoo Report post Posted December 11, 2018 Always seal after antique. I use RTC by Bee Natural. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
noobleather Report post Posted December 14, 2018 Nice work with the carving,keep at it!I I have just started out doing basic shilouette carving and know there is a long road ahead. Immiketoo thanks for sharing those tips,a few words and images can teach a great deal sometimes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
immiketoo Report post Posted December 15, 2018 10 hours ago, noobleather said: Nice work with the carving,keep at it!I I have just started out doing basic shilouette carving and know there is a long road ahead. Immiketoo thanks for sharing those tips,a few words and images can teach a great deal sometimes. Thanks, Noob. Pics are great, but videos are even better. IF you guys have any requests, let me know. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JazzBass Report post Posted December 15, 2018 On 12/10/2018 at 8:35 AM, immiketoo said: ...In Pic one, you can see the area around the hair is smooth except for the lines for the branches. The figure beveler pushes down the leather smoothly and makes your art stand out. In the second pic, you can see our the branches are behind the birds and Odin, but above the background. Also you can see the transitions on the celtic weave. Hope this helps. Wow, Mike - once again, your carving is off the hook, and SO darned CLEAN! Inspirational, my friend! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fiftycrushplan Report post Posted December 21, 2018 Here is an update I re-done the piece with your alls advice and used antique gel. I like this one much better. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JazzBass Report post Posted December 21, 2018 Yup - better and better ! Feels pretty good, doesn't it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YinTx Report post Posted December 21, 2018 Looks a lot better. If you want to clean up the outside portion, use a damp towel to scrub off some of the antique. Also, sheep wool with 50/50 tankote works really well too, and helps seal in the antique when it dries. DId you use Fiebeng's paste, or did you use an acrylic antique? YinTx Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fiftycrushplan Report post Posted December 21, 2018 39 minutes ago, YinTx said: Looks a lot better. If you want to clean up the outside portion, use a damp towel to scrub off some of the antique. Also, sheep wool with 50/50 tankote works really well too, and helps seal in the antique when it dries. DId you use Fiebeng's paste, or did you use an acrylic antique? YinTx I ordered the fiebings antique dye but I also got the eco flo and I used the eco flo on this one. I thought it looked better when I was testing it out. I used 50/50 resolene to water for finish as all I have is resolene and aussie conditioner. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YinTx Report post Posted December 22, 2018 If you have already put the seal coat on, it will probably not change much from what you have. In the future, try a wet towel to even out the antique outside of your tooled areas when using acrylic antiques like the eco flo, you may like the results. Also, applying tankote 50/50 before and allowing it to dry 8hrs before antique will give a different (lighter, more evenly colored) look as well. YinTx Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sceaden Report post Posted December 22, 2018 Definitely a big improvement! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fiftycrushplan Report post Posted December 26, 2018 Thanks everyone! I have been meaning to get some tan kote for a while now. If I am not mistaken will tan kote smooth out the fleshy side of leather as well? Or is that edge coat? Thanks all for the compliments. It does feel pretty cool to say I have gone from mere sheath maker to tooling apprentice LOL. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rockoboy Report post Posted December 29, 2018 On 27/12/2018 at 3:30 AM, fiftycrushplan said: will tan kote smooth out the fleshy side of leather as well? I believe what you need is Gum Tragacanth. Apply a thin coat then burnish with a smooth burnishing stick. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YinTx Report post Posted December 30, 2018 As Rockoboy mentioned, gum trag will work. I tend to use Tan-Kote to slick the back of leather, and it works well for me. I've heard of some using Resolene for the same purpose. I just apply, and slick with a glass slicker until dry and smooth. YinTx Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fiftycrushplan Report post Posted January 2, 2019 Here is what I did with the original. Turned it onto a sheath. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites