Ideal Clicker Machine Model C

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hi folks im new here , i have a model C clicker . Im trying to get it running without tearing up something the motor turns but it appears to have a lot of drag , i saw lube points on the side of the machine but im thinking the break band and clutch is having some kind of issues . It will come on and turn but my motor gets really hot and then it double clicks  then it will just spin and not trip is there anyone who works on these things ?

 

[ljk]

If it came from humid states and has been sitting it is probably all clogged up.  My machine had

been sitting outside in Florida for three years and was a mess.   Download the manual

listed on this post. Lube the bearing on the flywheel hub and back off the big nut a few clicks.

Oil clutch, just squirt the brake band.  I think the brake may be a little snug from grim are debris.

Follow instructions for lubing the motor.  The flywheel should spin very easily.  There is also

some posts on facebook clicker die swap and sell.

[Tilda]

Greetings

I have recently bought a Idea Model C and have powered it up and had it running.

Shortly after it went through a mutli click episode and in the process a piece broke that had been poorly welded.

I had it properly welded and put back.  It worked again for a little while.  Now it has stopped engaging and will not click when triggered. 

Just makes the  electrical sound with no movement

This machine was modified to have the dual trigger. I have the manual but am missing pages 40-51.  These pages seem to have several figure references.

The link in the thread did not include these pages. Does anyone else have them?? (the other link was dead or black.)

This is not my strong suit, but I am trying to utilize the manual to do the tedious work needed to know the machine.

Any advice on best starts, pitfalls etc?

Also, here is a picture of how it was modified for the motor.  

 

Edited April 6, 2023 by Northmount
replaced heic files with jpg files

[DavidMillsSaddlery]

That’s not what mine looks like? 

[ljk]

Hi Tilda  I may be able to make my model c work but your HEIC downloads gives me chest pains.  Perhaps if you could send your image in a jpeg I can help.  My clicker is now unloaded and working well perhaps I could make a video of the machine in operation.  I'm sure the engagement issue can be resolved.  tx Lynn

[DavidMillsSaddlery]

Anyone have photos of how the safety lockout is set up on one of these please? 

[Tilda]

Hello Lynn

I was going back to see information on the Ideal Clicker Model C and running through the thread and just now saw you reply, sheesh !! Thank you so much!  (I'm not catching any alerts anywhere when someone replies. Anyone with advice on this also appreciated.)

I got it running and then I think the lack of lubrication made it break the part again..I repaired the part again and I think I have a fairly good idea on what the problem is, but I'm not sure how to translate the lubrication oils and greases stated in the manual.

I would love yours or anyone's advice on how to translate...here are jpgs ; ) of those pages... 

I'm also gonna attempt to upload a video or link explaining some issues that I encountered

 somewhere for others that come through this thread..

Here is the Lubrication Schematic for the Ideal Clicker Model C

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would you like to sell a part or two?

[Trox]

Nice machine! It's an advantage to bolt a aluminum plate underneath the hammer head. Especially on these mechanical machines because they hit the dies rather than presses like hydraulic machines. This protects both the head and dies. You can also use double sided dies this way. I do have a German Sandt mechanical clicker myself. I would like to see how they retrofitted these with double triggers, if just the power on switch that wouldn't be any good for these. They need to run some revolution after starting to get some moment on the flywheel, thanks.

[24VOLTS]

This is a great topic!

I’ve been thinking about purchasing one of these older clickers. They seem to pop up quite a bit on Facebook. There are several brands out there. 
Is there a brand to stay away from?

Generally are parts available others for some of these older models?

thoughts all welcomed 

thanks

phill