Tooling topography lines

[Treesner]

Hey guys been focused on molding/dying/sewing and such when it comes to leather, haven’t done much tooling. How would you do curvy topographical lines or mountains. Do you swivel knife out all the lines then use some kind of thin narrow stamp? Any tools you’d reccomending and technique would be helpful 

[chrisash]

Tandy site has lots of video's on tooling and probably the best place to start, this is a example

 

[ABHandmade]

For me, "Pictorial Carving Finesse" by Al Stohlman turned out to be an excellent tutorial book and gave more than many videos available on the Internet.

https://www.leathercraftlibrary.com/product/1139/pictorial-carving-finesse-by-al-stohlman

From my own little experience, I can add that in the case of the carving of figures, bevelers are very often used without a preliminary cut by a swivel knife. Much depends on what specific result you need to get in one case or another. For example, a very steep beveler can be used to get soft lines without cuts.

You can, for example, simply with the effort "draw" them a line on the leather.

Edited January 25, 2019 by ABHandmade

[JLSleather]

For a guy claims his english isn't very good, you said that really well

That old Stohlman book is still the best I've seen --- LOTS of information in there covering exactly what the topic was, PLUS stuff on coloring, perspective, ....

 

[Treesner]

16 hours ago, ABHandmade said:

For me, "Pictorial Carving Finesse" by Al Stohlman turned out to be an excellent tutorial book and gave more than many videos available on the Internet.

https://www.leathercraftlibrary.com/product/1139/pictorial-carving-finesse-by-al-stohlman

From my own little experience, I can add that in the case of the carving of figures, bevelers are very often used without a preliminary cut by a swivel knife. Much depends on what specific result you need to get in one case or another. For example, a very steep beveler can be used to get soft lines without cuts.

You can, for example, simply with the effort "draw" them a line on the leather.

where would I purchase that one at? 

 

is this the type of thing? 

https://www.tandyleather.com/en/product/craftool-pro-stamp-thumbprint-p2611/craftool-pro-stamp-thumbprint-p2611
https://www.tandyleather.com/en/product/craftool-pro-stamp-thumbprint-p2622/craftool-pro-stamp-thumbprint-p2622

or is this narrower type of thing better
https://www.tandyleather.com/en/product/b201-craftool-beveler-stamp/b201-craftool-beveler-stamp

 

I dont have any tooling tools so trying to figure out what whats would make sense for curving thinnish lines and such. I know a lot of them are for pattering big areas 

[ABHandmade]

On 25.01.2019 at 4:19 PM, JLSleather said:

For a guy claims his english isn't very good, you said that really well

That old Stohlman book is still the best I've seen --- LOTS of information in there covering exactly what the topic was, PLUS stuff on coloring, perspective, ....

 

The 8 books of Stohlman (in electronic form) that I bought are worth every cent paid for them. I consider this as my most profitable investment in my attempts at mastering the art of working with leather

13 hours ago, Treesner said:

where would I purchase that one at? 

I made this beveler myself, when I needing a tool to perform delicate work when embossing figures.

13 hours ago, Treesner said:

is this the type of thing? 

https://www.tandyleather.com/en/product/craftool-pro-stamp-thumbprint-p2611/craftool-pro-stamp-thumbprint-p2611
https://www.tandyleather.com/en/product/craftool-pro-stamp-thumbprint-p2622/craftool-pro-stamp-thumbprint-p2622
 

No, the purpose of these stamps is different. These are pear shader, which are not used for the edge (as bevelers), but for the formation of interior (the surface of petals, leaves, etc.)

13 hours ago, Treesner said:

or is this narrower type of thing better
https://www.tandyleather.com/en/product/b201-craftool-beveler-stamp/b201-craftool-beveler-stamp

Yes it is beveler. But not steep.

13 hours ago, Treesner said:

I dont have any tooling tools so trying to figure out what whats would make sense for curving thinnish lines and such. I know a lot of them are for pattering big areas 

I dare to recommend this book to you https://www.leathercraftlibrary.com/product/1144/craftool-tech-tips-by-al-stohlman for start.

[Treesner]

On 1/26/2019 at 7:21 AM, ABHandmade said:

The 8 books of Stohlman (in electronic form) that I bought are worth every cent paid for them. I consider this as my most profitable investment in my attempts at mastering the art of working with leather

I made this beveler myself, when I needing a tool to perform delicate work when embossing figures.

No, the purpose of these stamps is different. These are pear shader, which are not used for the edge (as bevelers), but for the formation of interior (the surface of petals, leaves, etc.)

Yes it is beveler. But not steep.

I dare to recommend this book to you https://www.leathercraftlibrary.com/product/1144/craftool-tech-tips-by-al-stohlman for start.

could you link me to some tooling tools that would be helpful to me? 

[ABHandmade]

9 minutes ago, Treesner said:

could you link me to some tooling tools that would be helpful to me? 

If you showed a picture / photo of what you want to get, I could try to offer a minimal set of stamps (based on what I would use in this case).
There are a lot of types of stamps, some of them are used for very specific tasks, some is universal, some are interchangeable.

[Treesner]

4 minutes ago, ABHandmade said:

If you showed a picture / photo of what you want to get, I could try to offer a minimal set of stamps (based on what I would use in this case).
There are a lot of types of stamps, some of them are used for very specific tasks, some is universal, some are interchangeable.

well I havent really seen any topographical tooling but heres a photo of the pattern to give you an idea 

https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fi.etsystatic.com%2F7661818%2Fd%2Fil%2F2d1b39%2F1515525355%2Fil_340x270.1515525355_k53o.jpg%3Fversion%3D0&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.etsy.com%2Fmarket%2Fmount_rainier_topo%3Fref%3Dl2&docid=GaP08tmX43XWsM&tbnid=VnI4zY15ZHKGtM%3A&vet=10ahUKEwid3fCwzJHgAhWZHjQIHTBNBQgQMwhLKAswCw..i&w=340&h=270&safe=off&client=safari&bih=887&biw=1388&q=topographical leather&ved=0ahUKEwid3fCwzJHgAhWZHjQIHTBNBQgQMwhLKAswCw&iact=mrc&uact=8

 

for the mountain stuff

https://linnykenney.com/posts/2014/02/18/the-mountains-are-calling-and-i-must-go

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/453667362457074048/?lp=true

 

 

[ABHandmade]

11 hours ago, Treesner said:

well I havent really seen any topographical tooling but heres a photo of the pattern to give you an idea 

In the photo of the product to which you referred, it is clearly visible that the lines are a stitch ;)

11 hours ago, Treesner said:

for the mountain stuff

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/453667362457074048/?lp=true

Firstly cut by Swivel knife.

Here, for the outlines of the mountains, bevelers like B935, B203, B200 are used.
I would apply F890, F891, F895, F896. They can also used to form the relief of the mountains.
For matting / dimming, it seems that a pear shader such as P217, P975 is used.
For a tree, I would apply F910.
All of these stamps can be viewed either on the Tandy website https://www.tandyleather.com/en/category/leather-stamps or on LeatherCraftTools https://leathercrafttools.com/stamp/list.

PS. "Topography lines" can also be obtained by first making cuts with a swivel knife, and then using a F890, F891, F895, F896 stamps.

EDIT.  Using modeling spoons for individual parts will also help make everything more accurate and realistic https://www.tandyleather.com/en/product/craftool-pro-modeling-tools.

Edited January 29, 2019 by ABHandmade

[Treesner]

7 hours ago, ABHandmade said:

In the photo of the product to which you referred, it is clearly visible that the lines are a stitch ;)

Firstly cut by Swivel knife.

Here, for the outlines of the mountains, bevelers like B935, B203, B200 are used.
I would apply F890, F891, F895, F896. They can also used to form the relief of the mountains.
For matting / dimming, it seems that a pear shader such as P217, P975 is used.
For a tree, I would apply F910.
All of these stamps can be viewed either on the Tandy website https://www.tandyleather.com/en/category/leather-stamps or on LeatherCraftTools https://leathercrafttools.com/stamp/list.

PS. "Topography lines" can also be obtained by first making cuts with a swivel knife, and then using a F890, F891, F895, F896 stamps.

EDIT.  Using modeling spoons for individual parts will also help make everything more accurate and realistic https://www.tandyleather.com/en/product/craftool-pro-modeling-tools.

hah yeah like I said couldn't find a leather tooling example just that stick one to show the pattern. 

 

Appreciate that tool reference I'll pick these up and give them a go. All the kits of tooling sets seem like they have a bunch of stamps for repition type patterns that wouldn't really suit my needs