What is this machine? 168w101

[katit]

Looks like at least once in 100 years I get little lucky. So, couple days ago my wife's customer said they are closing business and finally retiring. They have shoe repair store and guy used to have factory making rider's boots. I told my wife if I need anything - it would be very cheap skiver and maybe post bed machine like PFAFF 1295. So, I said to myself this is what I would be interested in at very good price.

I need post bed to do some special sewing like headrests seams where you have to go round. I was thinking machine like 1295 can replace all I have and serve flat-bed duty with adapter.

Anyway. Here is what I got for $200. Skiver and machine. I told the guy this is closest machine from 20+ he got to what I need. However I don't see stitch adjustments and there is no reverse.. He asked 150 for skiver, but since it's got little rust he said take both for 200.

Skiver looks complete, soaked it and will get it restored first. Machine? Not sure if I need it. Does it have any value? Can it do 92 thread and can I adjust stitch?  Looks like 111 but very simple on a bottom and if stitch adjusts it must be not as easy..

[Wizcrafts]

I have a Singer 168w101 and use it a lot. I just finished sewing a motorcycle seat with it. I started with #207 thread on the thickest seams, then moved down to #138 on thinner seams and the padded diamond patterns. These machines can sew up to 3.5 stitches per inch.

If you don't want it send it to me!

[katit]

1 minute ago, Wizcrafts said:

I have a Singer 168w101 and use it a lot. I just finished sewing a motorcycle seat with it. I started with #207 thread on the thickest seams, then moved down to #138 on thinner seams and the padded diamond patterns. These machines can sew up to 3.5 stitches per inch.

If you don't want it send it to me!

Thanks! I want it now Do you have a link to instructions on this? I also don't see a manual foot lifter on it, should it be there?

 

[Wizcrafts]

7 minutes ago, katit said:

Thanks! I want it now Do you have a link to instructions on this? I also don't see a manual foot lifter on it, should it be there?

 

There should be a hand lift lever on the back, plus a chain foot lifter on the steel floor bar, next to the GO pedal. The mechanism is based on the Singer 111w153 and uses the same parts inn the head..

Maybe the attached PDF will help you out. It's all I've got for this machine.

168w101.pdf

[katit]

54 minutes ago, Wizcrafts said:

There should be a hand lift lever on the back, plus a chain foot lifter on the steel floor bar, next to the GO pedal. The mechanism is based on the Singer 111w153 and uses the same parts inn the head..

Maybe the attached PDF will help you out. It's all I've got for this machine.

168w101.pdf

Thanks a lot, this is exactly what I needed. It does explain all adjustments needed. I definitely don't have issues with "wrong equipment" now, but I have issues with too much equipment..

Do you know if regular 111 style hand lift lever will work? Actually I may see if I my Seiko one will fit, it might be the same part..

Also this machine has different mounts(not holed in a bed as in others) and it's got about 1 inch longer bed. Another thing to deal with.. Do you have pictures on how it's mounted?

[shoepatcher]

Parts for a Consew 229 will work on this machine since the Consew is a copy of this machine.  The 168W101 is a post version of the 111W153, 154 or 155.  I rebui9lt 4 of these in the 1980'2, early 1990's.

glenn

[katit]

Any suggestions on table top? I’d like to have one universal top. Seems that I can make cutout longer on left and come up with some “filler” piece for regular machines. But those rear mounts is not in correct places and don’t look the same

[dikman]

You got a walking foot post bed for next-to-nothing! Bargain! I decided to put my 51W59 (post bed) on a table with a "standard" cutout and had to make a filler piece as the bed was shorter, as well as fit some support pieces along the lower edges. Mine doesn't have hinges.

I would think that a 111- lift lever should work.

[katit]

9 hours ago, dikman said:

I decided to put my 51W59 (post bed) on a table with a "standard" cutout and had to make a filler piece as the bed was shorter, as well as fit some support pieces along the lower edges. Mine doesn't have hinges.

 

This bed seem to be about 1 inch longer. Now I need to think hard what I want to do. I definitely don't want another table here If I make cutout bigger - I will weaken left corners support and need to come up with some kind of reinforcement for "regular" machine. This is what hooks look like, I can easily remove them. I also see that I can just make front/rear of cutout with a "step" which will make it very sturdy solution.

I wonder if I can make some kind of wooden "adapter" which will raise this machine couple inches but bottom portion will go into "standard" slot. Hight will be ok, this machine will become "standing". But I can reuse table/motor this way. I have same issue with skiver. No space for additional table, need to come up with a way to use skiver on regular table. Skiver should be easier, it's flat on a bottom and 9in wide, will overlap existing hole. I can even mount it on some plywood.

 

 

[dikman]

An "adapter plate" should work and should be neater than having to fit support pieces in the hole for a "standard" base. Looks like bread crumbs on the base!

[katit]

27 minutes ago, dikman said:

An "adapter plate" should work and should be neater than having to fit support pieces in the hole for a "standard" base. Looks like bread crumbs on the base!

Those machines were stored in house basement. Luckily machine does not have any rust. But 20+ years of storage. Skiver as you see got rusty. Will need more work..