Members Sugarkryptonite Posted April 24, 2019 Members Report Posted April 24, 2019 Hi guys This is a looooong shot, but I'm looking at getting a coverstitch machine (more used for clothing not anything to do with leather). Local classifieds has a Siruba industrial coverstitch machine for $300, apparently in working condition. The brand is "Siruba". If anyone here has heard of Siruba or has experience with them in the past, this post is for you! Could anyone give me some info about this brand? Are they good machines? I have a walking foot industrial already (albeit Singer) so I'm not new to the industrial type machines, or working on them, but I am new to the coverstitch models. Any idea on parts availability? It's hard to get a read on the model, but it seems to be C007something Here's a picture of it. It does seem well used, but again, the price is reasonable. https://i.imgur.com/nmTDOe7.jpg[/img] Also if anyone knows of a forum that would be more appropriate for this question, that would be great as well. This is the only forum I know for industrial type sewing machines. Quote Singer 111W153 walking foot & Siruba W122-356 coverstitch
Members trash treasure Posted April 24, 2019 Members Report Posted April 24, 2019 Siruba is a major maker of these machines - Some of them are for specialized operations, though, so beware. That looks like an older top & bottom machine, and parts, etc may or not be available - Best advice is to go and sew it off with some fabric you want to use, and see if it does what you want. We have a Kansai coverstitch machine, newer than that one, and paid a LOT more for it - But if you sew knits a lot, they can do a miraculous job, if they're working right - If you buy it, find a service and parts manual if you can - They are complex machines, with a lot going on, mechanically - Think serger on steroids, and NOT for the mechanical faint-of-heart ........ Quote The model number giveth, and the subclass taketh away ......... Sometimes
Members Sugarkryptonite Posted April 24, 2019 Author Members Report Posted April 24, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, trash treasure said: Siruba is a major maker of these machines - Some of them are for specialized operations, though, so beware. That looks like an older top & bottom machine, and parts, etc may or not be available - Best advice is to go and sew it off with some fabric you want to use, and see if it does what you want. We have a Kansai coverstitch machine, newer than that one, and paid a LOT more for it - But if you sew knits a lot, they can do a miraculous job, if they're working right - If you buy it, find a service and parts manual if you can - They are complex machines, with a lot going on, mechanically - Think serger on steroids, and NOT for the mechanical faint-of-heart ........ Thanks for your help! Yea I would like to get into knits, mostly trying my hand at some athletic/active type wear. I found another one in much better condition (looks almost new) for $400, and the guy is willing to deliver it, so maybe I'll go that route. Anything you say I should look for specifically on the machine? Things that are common to break? Edited April 24, 2019 by Sugarkryptonite Quote Singer 111W153 walking foot & Siruba W122-356 coverstitch
Members DrmCa Posted April 25, 2019 Members Report Posted April 25, 2019 If you are serious about industrial sewing of knits, you would curse everything if you bought a 5-thread coverstitch w/o an automatic thread trimmer. I have the Kansai 5-thread coverstitch which is almost identical to the pictured machine and if I had to cut threads by hand instead of reversing the pedal up, I would hang myself. Save some money for an automatic machine and a compressor. Quote Machines: Mitsubishi DB-130 single needle, Kansai Special RX-9803/UTC coverstitch, Union Special 56300F chainstitch, Pfaff 335-17 cylinder arm walking foot, Bonis Type A fur machine, Huji 43-6 patcher, Singer 99 hand cranked, Juki DDL-553 single needle (for sale)
Members Sugarkryptonite Posted April 26, 2019 Author Members Report Posted April 26, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, DrmCa said: If you are serious about industrial sewing of knits, you would curse everything if you bought a 5-thread coverstitch w/o an automatic thread trimmer. I have the Kansai 5-thread coverstitch which is almost identical to the pictured machine and if I had to cut threads by hand instead of reversing the pedal up, I would hang myself. Save some money for an automatic machine and a compressor. Yikes, thanks. I'm not doing any sort of crazy production type sewing, just for my own hobby use in my house. Automatic thread trimmer would be nice for sure, but not sure I can justify that. Is it standard on the Kansai, or is it an option that was added? Edited April 26, 2019 by Sugarkryptonite Quote Singer 111W153 walking foot & Siruba W122-356 coverstitch
Members trash treasure Posted April 26, 2019 Members Report Posted April 26, 2019 (edited) A trimmer is an option on these machines - really for production use, when you have miles of seams to sew. We use a Kansai WX-8000, without a trimmer, in our pattern and prototype shop, for knit work. My wife loves it - She says you'd have to pry it from her cold dead hands :~) I will say that, if you buy one, be aware that they are shockingly HEAVY - At least the Kansai is. We have it in a submerged table, and I had to reinforce the sub table (that the actually machine sits on / in), with steel angle, as it was starting to crack. So check the table .......... Edited April 26, 2019 by trash treasure Quote The model number giveth, and the subclass taketh away ......... Sometimes
Members DrmCa Posted April 26, 2019 Members Report Posted April 26, 2019 Yes, they come with and w/o pneumatics, and the automatic machine is approximately $300-400 more expensive when used. The head weights about 80kg. I know - I carried it to the 2nd floor of the house once. Quote Machines: Mitsubishi DB-130 single needle, Kansai Special RX-9803/UTC coverstitch, Union Special 56300F chainstitch, Pfaff 335-17 cylinder arm walking foot, Bonis Type A fur machine, Huji 43-6 patcher, Singer 99 hand cranked, Juki DDL-553 single needle (for sale)
Members Sugarkryptonite Posted April 27, 2019 Author Members Report Posted April 27, 2019 Geez, thanks for the heads up guys. Unfortunately the deal seems to have fallen through, after having made a deal already with the seller, it seems as though he has done a deal with someone else instead. Such a piss off Quote Singer 111W153 walking foot & Siruba W122-356 coverstitch
Members dikman Posted April 27, 2019 Members Report Posted April 27, 2019 It happens, mate. Not all sellers will do the "right" thing. Quote Machines wot I have - Singer 51W59; Singer 331K4; Seiko STH-8BLD; Pfaff 335; CB4500. Chinese shoe patcher; Singer 201K (old hand crank)
Members Sugarkryptonite Posted April 28, 2019 Author Members Report Posted April 28, 2019 (edited) 19 hours ago, dikman said: It happens, mate. Not all sellers will do the "right" thing. You're right about that. Edited April 28, 2019 by Sugarkryptonite Quote Singer 111W153 walking foot & Siruba W122-356 coverstitch
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