Long shot...Siruba machines?

[Sugarkryptonite]

Hi guys

This is a looooong shot, but I'm looking at getting a coverstitch machine (more used for clothing not anything to do with leather). Local classifieds has a Siruba industrial coverstitch machine for $300, apparently in working condition. The brand is "Siruba". If anyone here has heard of Siruba or has experience with them in the past, this post is for you! 

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1. Could anyone give me some info about this brand?

2. Are they good machines? I have a walking foot industrial already (albeit Singer) so I'm not new to the industrial type machines, or working on them, but I am new to the coverstitch models.

3. Any idea on parts availability? It's hard to get a read on the model, but it seems to be C007something

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Here's a picture of it. It does seem well used, but again, the price is reasonable.

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Also if anyone knows of a forum that would be more appropriate for this question, that would be great as well. This is the only forum I know for industrial type sewing machines.

[trash treasure]

Siruba is a major maker of these machines - Some of them are for specialized operations, though, so beware.

That looks like an older top & bottom machine, and parts, etc may or not be available - Best advice is to go and sew it off with some fabric you want to use, and see if it does what you want.

We have a Kansai coverstitch machine, newer than that one, and paid a LOT more for it - But if you sew knits a lot, they can do a miraculous job, if they're working right - If you buy it, find a service and parts manual if you can - They are complex machines, with a lot going on, mechanically  - Think serger on steroids, and NOT for the mechanical faint-of-heart ........

[Sugarkryptonite]

8 hours ago, trash treasure said:

Siruba is a major maker of these machines - Some of them are for specialized operations, though, so beware.

That looks like an older top & bottom machine, and parts, etc may or not be available - Best advice is to go and sew it off with some fabric you want to use, and see if it does what you want.

We have a Kansai coverstitch machine, newer than that one, and paid a LOT more for it - But if you sew knits a lot, they can do a miraculous job, if they're working right - If you buy it, find a service and parts manual if you can - They are complex machines, with a lot going on, mechanically  - Think serger on steroids, and NOT for the mechanical faint-of-heart ........

Thanks for your help! Yea I would like to get into knits, mostly trying my hand at some athletic/active type wear. I found another one in much better condition (looks almost new) for $400, and the guy is willing to deliver it, so maybe I'll go that route. Anything you say I should look for specifically on the machine? Things that are common to break?

Edited April 24, 2019 by Sugarkryptonite

[DrmCa]

If you are serious about industrial sewing of knits, you would curse everything if you bought a 5-thread coverstitch w/o an automatic thread trimmer.

I have the Kansai 5-thread coverstitch which is almost identical to the pictured machine and if I had to cut threads by hand instead of reversing the pedal up, I would hang myself. Save some money for an automatic machine and a compressor.

[Sugarkryptonite]

8 hours ago, DrmCa said:

If you are serious about industrial sewing of knits, you would curse everything if you bought a 5-thread coverstitch w/o an automatic thread trimmer.

I have the Kansai 5-thread coverstitch which is almost identical to the pictured machine and if I had to cut threads by hand instead of reversing the pedal up, I would hang myself. Save some money for an automatic machine and a compressor.

Yikes, thanks. I'm not doing any sort of crazy production type sewing, just for my own hobby use in my house. Automatic thread trimmer would be nice for sure, but not sure I can justify that. Is it standard on the Kansai, or is it an option that was added?

Edited April 26, 2019 by Sugarkryptonite

[trash treasure]

A trimmer is an option on these machines - really for production use, when you have miles of seams to sew.

We use a Kansai WX-8000, without a trimmer, in our pattern and prototype shop, for knit work. My wife loves it - She says you'd have to pry it from her cold dead hands :~)

I will say that, if you buy one, be aware that they are shockingly HEAVY - At least the Kansai is.   We have it in a submerged table, and I had to reinforce the sub table (that the actually machine sits on / in), with steel angle, as it was starting to crack.   So check the table ..........               

Edited April 26, 2019 by trash treasure

[DrmCa]

Yes, they come with and w/o pneumatics, and the automatic machine is approximately $300-400 more expensive when used.

The head weights about 80kg. I know - I carried it to the 2nd floor of the house once.

[Sugarkryptonite]

Geez, thanks for the heads up guys. Unfortunately the deal seems to have fallen through, after having made a deal already with the seller, it seems as though he has done a deal with someone else instead. Such a piss off 

[dikman]

It happens, mate. Not all sellers will do the "right" thing.

[Sugarkryptonite]

19 hours ago, dikman said:

It happens, mate. Not all sellers will do the "right" thing.

You're right about that.

Edited April 28, 2019 by Sugarkryptonite