Members Constabulary Posted April 25, 2019 Members Report Posted April 25, 2019 (edited) The machine (pictures in 1st post) has no safety clutch (no plunger in flat bed) and does not need a plunger for stitch length adjusting as it is a very early version of the 111 with a knob for stitch length adjustment. I would guess its from the 1930´s - 1940´s era. Well depends on the point of view - if it was a plain drop feed straight stitcher I would not touch it but a triple feed / walking foot machine that cost me nothing - why not? You cannot earn money with a restoration & selling it but for the fun and then owning a functional walking foot sewing machine for what ever (future) purpose... why not :-) Seems most parts are present. I would first buy the missing parts (not many I guess) and then reassemble it and when it sews I would start the restoration. I would also not strip it completely. Maybe dry ice blasting is a fast way for cleaning and removing old paint. Edited April 25, 2019 by Constabulary Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
Members kevinkay Posted April 25, 2019 Author Members Report Posted April 25, 2019 Duh........The "pretty" machine photo that I posted shows "oil" at the same "button" I thought was used for stitch length AND I even commented on the "oil" decals - I missed that one!! How should that stitch length dial work, should it pull out completely? AND weird that I have that sight hole but no dial down there - whats the purpose of the hole if Singer hasn't yet developed the "newer" stop button and dial?? Can a walking foot machine be tested, actual stitches without a motor and just turning the wheel?? I can't find a Singer industrial serial number date chart, # is W616927 I have to degrease this machine, my hands are filthy every time I touch it. I know of these 3 oil wick's ( the third photo-puff of felt under the fork). Am I missing any others? THANKS for all input! Quote
Members Constabulary Posted April 25, 2019 Members Report Posted April 25, 2019 (edited) you have no sight hole - you have an oil hole - the sight hole is above the bulge (see picture of my 111G156) You can pull out the stitch length knob (and rod) and nothing goes out of alignment. There is a short end with very coarse threading at the end of the hand wheel that's the "guide" for the pin inside the stitch length knob. You screw it in by turning it toward you with a bit of pressure to the knob (jiggle it a bit back and forth for finding the right point...) EDIT: the last 3 pics are from my 108w20 which has the same stitch length adjuster as your early 111. And the Singer 153 also has this type of stitch length adjuster. Edited April 25, 2019 by Constabulary Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
Members Constabulary Posted April 25, 2019 Members Report Posted April 25, 2019 Some extracts form my 108w20 manual - hope this helps Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
CowboyBob Posted April 25, 2019 Report Posted April 25, 2019 Yes,someone must of changed the brass plate over the years,sometimes if you take it off & look at the other side you'll find the correct model#.It is something like a 111w101,103. Quote Bob Kovar Toledo Industrial Sewing Machine Sales Ltd. 3631 Marine Rd Toledo,Ohio 43609 1-866-362-7397
Members kevinkay Posted April 25, 2019 Author Members Report Posted April 25, 2019 (edited) Found a 103 on Ebay - sure does look like mine. Hum....and My Singer Medallion is missing, and they don't look like they fall off with out intentionally removing them. AND this Ebay one also has the Medallion missing....... So now one more piece to hunt for - the correct model plate, THANKS for the dial diagram, now I understand it. (Photos of 103 on Ebay) Edited April 25, 2019 by kevinkay Quote
Members kevinkay Posted April 25, 2019 Author Members Report Posted April 25, 2019 How do I know if i have a "vibrating presser bar" the change between W100, W101 and W104 As 111W101 but with vibrating presser bar and pressure spring for high speed. For materials with no bulky seams to cross. Quote
Members Constabulary Posted April 25, 2019 Members Report Posted April 25, 2019 (edited) all triple feed / walking foot machines have a vibrating presser bar - this just means the outer presser foot bar (when you look form the left side it is the bar on the left) is holding the material down until the needle penetrates the material and moves up when the needle bar and inner foot + feed dog are feeding the material. Moving up and down means vibrating in Singer-English. BTW - not sure if I posted this brochure already. It´s a 1950s sales brochure for the 111 type machines Singer 111w Class Machine Brochure.PDF Edited April 25, 2019 by Constabulary Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
Members kevinkay Posted April 25, 2019 Author Members Report Posted April 25, 2019 (edited) FANTASTIC! thanks for sharing the brochure! Hay- 111w153 is missing from the brochure, Edited April 25, 2019 by kevinkay Quote
Members Constabulary Posted April 25, 2019 Members Report Posted April 25, 2019 (edited) I think the brochure is newer than your machines and I´m sure it does not cover all subclasses. Singer probably dropped some subclasses and some new subclasses where added... I don´t know... Edited April 25, 2019 by Constabulary Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
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