Members RememberingGS Posted June 23, 2019 Members Report Posted June 23, 2019 Hi sorry im sure this has been answered somewhere but whats a good sewing machine for a light leatherwork, basically wallets thats all. Thanks. Quote
Moderator Wizcrafts Posted June 23, 2019 Moderator Report Posted June 23, 2019 Any common brand name triple feed walking foot machine will sew wallets. This is typically a flat bed machine like those seen in upholstery shops. They are built to properly handle bonded (nylon|polyester) thread sizes 69 through 138. Some ise the Singer standard L style bobbins like those used in the old Singer 111w series of the 1950s. Newer machines use a 1.5x "M" bobbin. Juki walking foot machines often have a 2x capacity "U" bobbin. Old Singer industrial sewing machines usually don't have a reverse lever. Most newer machines have a push down reverse, or a single stitch lever that controls both directions. Triple feed walking foot machines usually have smooth bottom feet to avoid marking veg-tan leather (there are all manner of accessory feet). Avoid dual, top and bottom feed walking foot machines as they have aggressive teeth on the feet to drag the material through the machine. They are intended for sewing chrome tan leather, awnings, tarps, drapes and vinyl. Read my sticky article about the type of sewing machine you need to sew leather. While the machine head is less important, the same can't be said for the motor. All upholstery shops use clutch motors for their speed and torque out of the gate. Most newbies to sewing leather projects want slow speed for ease of use and precision on short runs. While any skilled upholsterer can feather the clutch to slow down, it is not so easy for leather crafters who frequent this forum. So, we tend to buy servo motors and sometimes speed reducers to gain slow speed torque and ease of control. While there are a number of servo motors on the market, many of us, including me, use this Family Sew FS-550s, which is sold with a non-stock 2 inch pulley by Toledo Industrial Sewing Machines. Other industrial sewing machine dealers usually sell the motor with a 70mm pulley which runs faster and is harder to slow down without adding a reducer. Quote Posted IMHO, by Wiz My current crop of sewing machines: Cowboy CB4500, Singer 107w3, Singer 139w109, Singer 168G101, Singer 29k71, Singer 31-15, Singer 111w103, Singer 211G156, Adler 30-7 on power stand, Techsew 2700, Fortuna power skiver and a Pfaff 4 thread 2 needle serger.
Members Rhale Posted June 23, 2019 Members Report Posted June 23, 2019 In your profile you said you wanted to learn making holsters for revolvers and knife sheaths, why not get a machine heavy enough to do those also? I would recommend a cobra, cowboy or techsew they are all basically the same machines. Quote
Members RememberingGS Posted June 23, 2019 Author Members Report Posted June 23, 2019 28 minutes ago, Rhale said: In your profile you said you wanted to learn making holsters for revolvers and knife sheaths, why not get a machine heavy enough to do those also? I would recommend a cobra, cowboy or techsew they are all basically the same machines. Ok thanks and any specific model, ive never used a sewing machine before Quote
Members Rhale Posted June 23, 2019 Members Report Posted June 23, 2019 I own a3200 cowboy which I really like, it will sew up to 5/8” thick, mine is set up to sew down to about 6 oz. but it could be set up to sew a little thinner from what I understand. Contact Toledo sewing or solar leather both are on thin forum. I have bought from both they are good people. Quote
Members RememberingGS Posted June 23, 2019 Author Members Report Posted June 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Rhale said: I own a3200 cowboy which I really like, it will sew up to 5/8” thick, mine is set up to sew down to about 6 oz. but it could be set up to sew a little thinner from what I understand. Contact Toledo sewing or solar leather both are on thin forum. I have bought from both they are good people. Cool thank you Quote
Members dikman Posted June 23, 2019 Members Report Posted June 23, 2019 Holsters. There's that magic word again. Not much can be added to Wiz's reply as it pertains to wallets, which is what you asked. If, however, you also want to sew holsters then that's an entirely different ball-game, as you Yanks say. If you're only talking about pancake-style holsters, IWB/OWB then the 3200 should probably suffice, but if you're considering heavier Western-style holsters then you'll really need something bigger (usually a 441 clone). You'll probably cause yourself a lot of grief if you want to sew thin wallets on these two machines. The simple fact is there is NO one sewing machine that can do it all (unfortunately). You could say it's akin to the Holy Grail for leatherworkers. Quote Machines wot I have - Singer 51W59; Singer 331K4; Seiko STH-8BLD; Pfaff 335; CB4500. Chinese shoe patcher; Singer 201K (old hand crank)
Members SolarLeatherMachines Posted June 24, 2019 Members Report Posted June 24, 2019 On 6/23/2019 at 12:21 PM, Wizcrafts said: While there are a number of servo motors on the market, many of us, including me, use this Family Sew FS-550s, which is sold with a non-stock 2 inch pulley by Toledo Industrial Sewing Machines. Other industrial sewing machine dealers usually sell the motor with a 70mm pulley which runs faster and is harder to slow down without adding a reducer. All Cowboy machines now come with the 50mm/2 inch pulley as standard on the servo motor. Quote Alexander
Moderator Wizcrafts Posted June 25, 2019 Moderator Report Posted June 25, 2019 8 hours ago, SolarLeatherMachines said: All Cowboy machines now come with the 50mm/2 inch pulley as standard on the servo motor. I recently learned that and should have clarified my statement. I repent in dust and ashes! I was thinking about the motors sold by some eBay and Amazon general purpose industrial sewing machine dealers who don't specialize in precision slow speed leather sewing machines. In fact, there is a recent topic about a new member who bought a Family Sew motor online that had a 70mm pulley and all the trouble he is going through trying to refit it with a smaller pulley. Quote Posted IMHO, by Wiz My current crop of sewing machines: Cowboy CB4500, Singer 107w3, Singer 139w109, Singer 168G101, Singer 29k71, Singer 31-15, Singer 111w103, Singer 211G156, Adler 30-7 on power stand, Techsew 2700, Fortuna power skiver and a Pfaff 4 thread 2 needle serger.
Members SolarLeatherMachines Posted June 25, 2019 Members Report Posted June 25, 2019 Yah, saw that. Shoulda just called one of the dealers. We keep extra pulleys in stock, and I have the tools to ream out to various sizes. `vOv' Quote Alexander
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