A new machine?

[RockyAussie]

2 hours ago, toxo said:

Any cheaper suggestions welcome.

As @dikman said above is true. A cheaper alternative and a pretty good start off machine is the 227R clones. Techsew 2700 or CB 227R are a couple of them. Needle from edge is about 7mm, smaller diameter than the others I recommended but at the expense of a smaller bobbin. The bobbin is still bigger than the old 335 being a G style at around 22x10mm. The stitch length is shorter at a max 5mm but that's not too bad. Threads can go down to #45 (60M) and up to 207. In standard form you only get 10mm of thickness leather to go through but with a 190 system needle you can adjust the needle bar up to get a 1/2" (13mm) leather through. 

[mikesc]

I'm wondering if you can even get Techsew brand machines in the UK, ( where toxo is ) without shipping them in new from Ron in the USA ?

Or Cowboy brand..without importing them from the USA

Shipping  and import duties and VAT will add a considerable amount on..Plus the prices have gone up in the USA due to "tariffs", which makes the end cost of one shipped from USA higher again.

I'm pretty sure that outside of the USA, Canada  and Australia those two "clone brands" are very rare and and that the Juki etc type clones are sold under other names..I see far more Adlers, Pfaffs, and Singers in Europe and the EU than any of the clone brands, be they new or used..with the exception of those I mention below..and maybe Zoje..You look at the big dealers like College Sewing..Neither Techsew nor Cowboy figure anywhere on their sites, as machines, nor spares for ...

The Global brand might be an equivalent to techsew ?..Quite a few dealers of those in the UK

Or Highlead ..

Cowboy equivalents are available from Sieck in Germany.

http://www.sieck.de/en/machines/sewing/triple-transport-machines/

Edited March 9, 2020 by mikesc

[Constabulary]

Cowboy / Hightex machines are sold by Frank Brunnet in Germany.

You still can import them from Germany w/o paying Custom fees - this "may" end by the end of 2020 (but no one knows).

https://hightex-germany.de/

https://naehmaschine-shop.com/naehmaschinen/

Edited March 9, 2020 by Constabulary

[mikesc]

Ah..It's Hitex..Thanks

I've never been able to get the hightex-germany.de site to switch to English..Loads of articles there in English..but no way to switch the language..despite the UK flag on the front page..

Apparently..these people Franklinco are the UK Hitex distributers.

https://www.franklinco.co.uk/sewing-machines/

CB3200 ready to go inc stand / table with reducer and servo around £1,579.17 / 1,810.71 Euro inc VAT

Makes that machine USD 20.00 cheaper ( inc VAT ) in the UK than in the USA.

Edited March 9, 2020 by mikesc

[toxo]

Thanks again guys. This is brilliant stuff for those of us who don't know the difference between a clone and a tractor. I will peruse with interest after I've cooked the dogs dinner. (I'm having a pastie.  :( )

[mikesc]

35 minutes ago, toxo said:

Thanks again guys. This is brilliant stuff for those of us who don't know the difference between a clone and a tractor. I will peruse with interest after I've cooked the dogs dinner. (I'm having a pastie. )

Avec ou sans tassle

[toxo]

53 minutes ago, mikesc said:

Avec ou sans tassle

tassle?

[mikesc]

Look up "pasties" at the urban dictionary..The word has fallen out of use..as has the use of "pasties"..except in same parts of the USA.

Item worn by burlesque dancers..

[toxo]

Just now, mikesc said:

Look up "pasties" at the urban dictionary..The word has fallen out of use..as has the use of "pasties"..except in same parts of the USA.

Item worn by burlesque dancers..

Ah! As in "paysties" rather than "Passties", The stick on thingies. :). Sorry Mike, my brain is stricyly linear. Absolutely  pants at cryptic.

[mikesc]

15 minutes ago, toxo said:

Ah! As in "paysties" rather than "Passties", The stick on thingies. :). Sorry Mike, my brain is stricyly linear. Absolutely  pants at cryptic.

You are certain ? :) ..OK then..make mine a Talisker

Edited March 9, 2020 by mikesc