Looking at buying a machine but overwhelmed.

[Brigeyboo]

3 minutes ago, Wizcrafts said:

When I got my Adler 30-7 it too needed some replacement parts. They added up to about $250. Additionally, the needles are extra long and not very plentiful. Thus, what is available is expensive. If you were in business with a walk-in customer base, the Adler would be worth fixing for on-the-spot repairs.

I'm in no business at all. This is just for hobby stuff (Yes, a lot of money to drop for a hobby I don't do often) But I hoard leather and have made a few things, I just feel like I'd make more if it were easier to sew rather than hand punching and sewing. I'll see if I can find some photos of the last bag I made.

[Brigeyboo]

[Brigeyboo]

On 7/1/2020 at 2:18 AM, charlie2crows said:

Nice work!!!

Any of the JUKI 341 clones would be perfect for what you are looking for. Will give you some scope to step up later should you chose. A Techsew 2750 is just one of many of these clones. Cowboy has one too.

Very cheap in China - a quarter of what you would pay in the USA.

Thank you! I'll look into that

[DonInReno]

Even though you don’t have a lot of need to fix it, getting your patcher up and running will certainly increase its value much more than the cost of the parts.  

[Wizcrafts]

On 7/2/2020 at 11:08 PM, Brigeyboo said:

Thank you! I'll look into that

There has been some discussion in this forum among members who tried importing sewing machines directly from China vs buying in one's country from an authorized dealer. Most agreed that by the time the machine was delivered, any savings was either minimal or zero after paying shipping and handling fees, getting insureance against damages, faxing documents, paying Brokerage warehouses and the cost of Customs and box inspections. One fee most folks overlook if they aren't in the habit of importing machinery from China is the 25% tariff on the landed price.

In addition to all of the costs and fees, once the machine arrives you become the dealer for the purposes of assembling it, setting it up, timing it and performing any necessary servicing. Do not expect technical support from the Chinese seller. If a manual is even supplied, it may be in Chinese, or Chinglish. Worse yet, if it gets damaged in transit you will have to file photographic documentation with whomever you paid to be the insurer and hope for compensation. Should you want to return it to the Chinese seller it will be at your expense.

[dikman]

What Wiz said. Some time ago a member in the US looked into importing a machine direct from China and he found that any likely savings would be minimal and it just wasn't worth the trouble. I found the same thing here in Australia. Better to buy from a reputable dealer.

[Wizcrafts]

I dug around and found this Customs Brokerage firm who has some very good information on their home page about what one will need to do to import machinery of any kind from China. It is both bewildering and eye opening.

[Constabulary]

If I wanted to import a sewing machine form China I would do this with DHL Express or UPS. On my side of the pond they do the custom work when you provide them a regular invoice or commercial invoice (usually invoice is included in the package) and they (UPS or DHL) charge you the import fees, VAT and some fees for their work (about  10-20€ in case of DHL). They deliver the package / machine to your door when the fees are paid or they do COD. I don´t know how it works in the US but it would surprise me if it would work differently in the US. Question is how much the shipping will be.

Check with UPS and check with DHL Express how they do the custom work and how much they charge. And AFAIK below $800 (not sure) they do not even charge  custom fees in the US.

[Wizcrafts]

38 minutes ago, Constabulary said:

And AFAIK below $800 (not sure) they do not even charge  custom fees in the US.

I'm pretty sure that the 25% Chinese Goods Import Tariff would probably be charged, whether or not the invoice is below $800. I know our dealers have to pay it on shipments from China.

[Constabulary]

 

1 hour ago, Wizcrafts said:

I'm pretty sure that the 25% Chinese Goods Import Tariff would probably be charged, whether or not the invoice is below $800. I know our dealers have to pay it on shipments from China. 

as far as I have researched, NO.

https://www.wouros-partner.de/usa-ausnahmen-von-den-zusatzzoellen-fuer-sendungen-aus-china-mit-wert-unter-800-us/

they put a link and source at the end of the article.

Google translate:

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.wouros-partner.de%2Fusa-ausnahmen-von-den-zusatzzoellen-fuer-sendungen-aus-china-mit-wert-unter-800-us%2F

Importing goods from China to the US is not my business so please evaluate this by your self. However I would check with UPS or DHL Express in this regard in case you want to work with them. But IMO they are the easier way to import goods for small business.

 

EDIT:

cant´t read the full article but the headline pretty much tells the story:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/tariffs-on-chinese-goods-are-skirted-by-some-u-s-shoppers-11577788201

EDIT II:

https://www.ecomcrew.com/trumps-china-tariffs/

Edited July 4, 2020 by Constabulary