Members eddie0225 Posted July 18, 2020 Members Report Posted July 18, 2020 Hello, I'm trying to find out as much as I can wanting to pick your brain to get my daughter starts using the Singer 51 w 54 post machine I've gotta her to do leatherwork with. Information on things like needle sizes thread types and such. She has been using an old slant-a-matic but it can only do so much. A good friend told me this machine would do most anything she wanted So please any help at all to help her get going would be wonderful. Does anyone know where to get an owners manual? I've found a parts manual so far and found a few threads on needles and such.Mainly looking for ideas from experience Quote Many thanks Eddie known as the bearded wonder lol
Northmount Posted July 18, 2020 Report Posted July 18, 2020 @eddie0225 Moved your post to Leather Sewing Machines. You'll get more answers here. Tom Quote
Members eddie0225 Posted July 18, 2020 Author Members Report Posted July 18, 2020 thank you Quote Many thanks Eddie known as the bearded wonder lol
Members Constabulary Posted July 19, 2020 Members Report Posted July 19, 2020 (edited) A quick google forum search gives you a lot of information about the 51w https://www.google.com/search?q=singer+51w+site%3Aleatherworker.net%2Fforum%2F&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 original needle system afaik is 128 but machine could be modified to accept other / more common needles. I have a 51wSV2 (early model) and I did a lot of modifications now mine is using 135x17 needles. EDIT: Here is an extract from a Schmetz needle list. The 51w40 in particular is not mentioned but you have an idea... Edited July 19, 2020 by Constabulary Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
Members marronne Posted July 19, 2020 Members Report Posted July 19, 2020 I have a manual for a 51w100 (this sub-model is not listed on ISMAC web site!) but according to the description in the manual and the that of your 51w54 we're not talking much difference in terms of what it does. The basics will be the same. I'll scan it in today and post it here later. Quote Current Industrial Machines: USM No6; Claes Atlas; Singer 29k, Union Special 11900; Durkopp 18; Adler 5-36; Singer 108w20; Singer 107w1; Singer 75-1; Singer 46k15; Singer 18-2; Singer 133k13; Adler 30-15; Singer 31k15; Singer 31k32; Singer 134w3; Singer 34k11; Singer 91k6
Members Constabulary Posted July 19, 2020 Members Report Posted July 19, 2020 2 hours ago, marronne said: I have a manual for a 51w100 (this sub-model is not listed on ISMAC web site!) but according to the description in the manual and the that of your 51w54 we're not talking much difference in terms of what it does. The basics will be the same. I'll scan it in today and post it here later. Would be great - looking forward to seeing / downloading it Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
Members marronne Posted July 19, 2020 Members Report Posted July 19, 2020 Hi again Attached is the manual. Hope it's of use Singer 51w100 and 52w100 - instructions for using and adjusting.pdf Quote Current Industrial Machines: USM No6; Claes Atlas; Singer 29k, Union Special 11900; Durkopp 18; Adler 5-36; Singer 108w20; Singer 107w1; Singer 75-1; Singer 46k15; Singer 18-2; Singer 133k13; Adler 30-15; Singer 31k15; Singer 31k32; Singer 134w3; Singer 34k11; Singer 91k6
Members Constabulary Posted July 19, 2020 Members Report Posted July 19, 2020 (edited) Holy Crap - thats the manual for the early 51w - the one I have Not exactly the same but for the early one... Nothing new in there but nice to have. THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!! Edited July 19, 2020 by Constabulary Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
Members marronne Posted July 19, 2020 Members Report Posted July 19, 2020 13 minutes ago, Constabulary said: Holy Crap - thats the manual for the early 51w - the one I have Not exactly the same but for the early one... Nothing new in there but nice to have. THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!! My pleasure! You help so many people on this great forum, including me, my turn to return the favour Quote Current Industrial Machines: USM No6; Claes Atlas; Singer 29k, Union Special 11900; Durkopp 18; Adler 5-36; Singer 108w20; Singer 107w1; Singer 75-1; Singer 46k15; Singer 18-2; Singer 133k13; Adler 30-15; Singer 31k15; Singer 31k32; Singer 134w3; Singer 34k11; Singer 91k6
Members eddie0225 Posted July 20, 2020 Author Members Report Posted July 20, 2020 well I found the manual for sale and got the actual pdf for it I'll upload it here if it'll let me so other can use if needed. Thanks for all the info. Now to find the needles she'll need seems to be 128 platform she is wanting one good for sewing leather... Well I tried and its a bit to big I'll downsize it later and put it here Quote Many thanks Eddie known as the bearded wonder lol
Members eddie0225 Posted July 20, 2020 Author Members Report Posted July 20, 2020 (edited) well was going to share it but it's too big to upload here says max size is 1.46 MB and it is 2.1mb, any ideas on how to get on here for someone who may need it? Edited July 20, 2020 by eddie0225 added something Quote Many thanks Eddie known as the bearded wonder lol
Northmount Posted July 20, 2020 Report Posted July 20, 2020 1 hour ago, eddie0225 said: any ideas on how to get on here for someone who may need it? Send it to me and I will post it. Sending you a PM. Tom Quote
Members marronne Posted July 27, 2020 Members Report Posted July 27, 2020 On 7/20/2020 at 6:28 PM, eddie0225 said: well I found the manual for sale and got the actual pdf for it I'll upload it here if it'll let me so other can use if needed. Thanks for all the info. Now to find the needles she'll need seems to be 128 platform she is wanting one good for sewing leather... Well I tried and its a bit to big I'll downsize it later and put it here Did you see the manual I posted? There won't be much difference between sub-models so you should find what you need Quote Current Industrial Machines: USM No6; Claes Atlas; Singer 29k, Union Special 11900; Durkopp 18; Adler 5-36; Singer 108w20; Singer 107w1; Singer 75-1; Singer 46k15; Singer 18-2; Singer 133k13; Adler 30-15; Singer 31k15; Singer 31k32; Singer 134w3; Singer 34k11; Singer 91k6
Northmount Posted July 27, 2020 Report Posted July 27, 2020 On 7/20/2020 at 12:59 PM, Northmount said: Send it to me and I will post it. Sending you a PM. Tom @eddie0225 Please check your PMs. You haven't read it it yet! When you send me your PDF, I will post it for you in this thread. Tom Quote
Members jimi Posted July 28, 2020 Members Report Posted July 28, 2020 Here is the needle chart for the class 51 machines. Páginas desde Singer 51w.pdf Quote
Northmount Posted March 1, 2021 Report Posted March 1, 2021 Here are the manuals from Eddie0225 and a comment from him: I haven’t made many post there but have finally got around to working on the machine found out since I got everything hooked up and going again the timing is off I took the machine in to this guy who works these types and he said is a simple fix nothing serious. SINGER-51W54-51W55 full manual.pdf Singer 51w100 and 52w100 - instructions for using and adjusting.pdf Quote
Members Constabulary Posted March 2, 2021 Members Report Posted March 2, 2021 Thanks for sharing and posting the manuals!!!! Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
Members jimi Posted March 2, 2021 Members Report Posted March 2, 2021 Thank you marronne and eddie Quote
Members eddie0225 Posted March 2, 2021 Author Members Report Posted March 2, 2021 Apparently the timing was off because the timing belt was missing somehow or another it got gone. So now I need to get a timing belt. Shop said everything else seemed to be in awesome shape just missing the timing belt. Not sure how I missed it but either way it's gone now. Got a place in tn. That says they might be able to find a substitute for it I'm hoping or find someone who has an extra Quote Many thanks Eddie known as the bearded wonder lol
Members shoepatcher Posted March 4, 2021 Members Report Posted March 4, 2021 I may have a timing belt for you. I found more of them for the 51 class. glenn Quote
Members eddie0225 Posted March 4, 2021 Author Members Report Posted March 4, 2021 (edited) @shoepatcher Where please Edited March 4, 2021 by eddie0225 To correct something Quote Many thanks Eddie known as the bearded wonder lol
Members shoepatcher Posted March 5, 2021 Members Report Posted March 5, 2021 (edited) I found my timing belts. I have a couple of ones that are a little dirty but never been used and on one, the cotton belt is dark from oil but is good. I assume his one is a little longer from being stretched on a machine. Price is $30.00 plus shipping. glenn Edited March 5, 2021 by shoepatcher grammar Quote
Members eddie0225 Posted March 7, 2021 Author Members Report Posted March 7, 2021 Well I'd love to get one from you and I don't mind if they're dirty and I've seen you've done a lot of dealings here and from all I can tell no problems . I tried to pm you but it says you don't or can't receive them don't remember which it was. I'd like to talk one way or another about getting one of them for sure and I appreciate it tons. So how do I get in contact with you other than p.m.'s which it says you can't do Eddie Quote Many thanks Eddie known as the bearded wonder lol
Members eddie0225 Posted March 8, 2021 Author Members Report Posted March 8, 2021 well can't seem to quote can't pm you maybe @shoepatcher will get your attention. I want to get one of your belts just need to know how to make the deal so I can get the belt. Thanks Eddie Quote Many thanks Eddie known as the bearded wonder lol
Moderator Wizcrafts Posted March 8, 2021 Moderator Report Posted March 8, 2021 1 hour ago, eddie0225 said: well can't seem to quote can't pm you maybe @shoepatcher will get your attention. I want to get one of your belts just need to know how to make the deal so I can get the belt. Thanks Eddie Are you using NoScript or another ad/script blocker in your browser? If so, turn it off, or disable blocking for our website. I made this mistake yesterday on another forum. I tried wrapping a keyword inside url tags and the action failed repeatedly until I noticed that NoScript was blocking items on that page. Quote Posted IMHO, by Wiz My current crop of sewing machines: Cowboy CB4500, Singer 107w3, Singer 139w109, Singer 168G101, Singer 29k71, Singer 31-15, Singer 111w103, Singer 211G156, Adler 30-7 on power stand, Techsew 2700, Fortuna power skiver and a Pfaff 4 thread 2 needle serger.
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